Just Say “No”

At Foreign Affairs Michèle A. Flournoy remarks on how the U. S. can prevent a war in Asia:

Yet even as it strengthens its capacity to deter China, Washington must also reopen a sustained high-level strategic dialogue with Beijing—a practice that every administration since Richard Nixon’s has adopted, until the current one. Reestablishing a forum in which China and the United States could regularly discuss their respective interests and perspectives, identify areas of potential cooperation (such as nonproliferation and climate change), and manage their differences short of conflict is essential; tactical discussions on trade issues are simply not enough. After all, deterrence depends on the clear and consistent communication of interests and intent in order to minimize the risk of miscalculation. Given Beijing’s assumption that the United States is preoccupied and in decline, Chinese leaders’ propensity to test the limits in areas such as Taiwan or the South China Sea, and the faulty, potentially escalatory assumptions embedded in Chinese military doctrine, such a dialogue cannot come too soon.

I’m afraid she’s whistling past a graveyard. Given her assumption, there’s nothing that the U. S. can do to prevent a war in Asia. China and the United States are not the only actors.

What we can do is reduce the likelihood of China and the U. S. going to war with each other, a conflict in which I do not believe there would be any victors. We can just say “no”. We should promote our own interests, not construe those interests too broadly, and stop promoting the interests of other countries as though they were our own.

I found this passage of her post the most interesting:

Since the 1991 Gulf War, the PLA has gone to school on the American way of war and developed an expanding set of asymmetric approaches to undermine U.S. military strengths and exploit U.S. vulnerabilities. Of greatest concern is the substantial investment Beijing has made in “anti-access/area-denial” (A2/AD) capabilities. Ranging from persistent precision strikes on U.S. logistics, forces, and bases to electronic, kinetic, and cyber attacks on digital connections and systems inside U.S. battle management networks, these capabilities are designed to prevent the United States from projecting military power into East Asia in order to defend its interests or allies. As a result, in the event that conflict starts, the United States can no longer expect to quickly achieve air, space, or maritime superiority; the U.S. military would need to fight to gain advantage, and then to keep it, in the face of continuous efforts to disrupt and degrade its battle management networks.

The Chinese military has also made rapid advances in cyber- and artificial intelligence—thanks to China’s massive theft of Western technology, state support for its leading technology companies, and doctrine of “civil-military fusion,” which requires that any commercial or academic technological advancement with military implications be shared with the PLA. Technological investments have come along with doctrinal innovations. Chinese military doctrine now holds that the side that can make and execute battlefield decisions most quickly will gain a decisive advantage in any conflict. China’s theory of victory increasingly relies on “system destruction warfare”—crippling an adversary at the outset of conflict, by deploying sophisticated electronic warfare, counterspace, and cyber-capabilities to disrupt what are known as C4ISR networks (command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance), and thereby thwarting its power projection and undermining its resolve. Among other things, this means that the United States can no longer assume that its satellites—essential for navigation, communications, early warning, targeting, and much more—would escape attack during a conflict. Given China’s ability to interfere with, spoof, damage, or destroy U.S. satellites, Washington can no longer take space for granted as an uncontested domain during war.

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  • TarsTarkas Link

    The Han Empire will start a war if Xi feels his grip on power is slipping, in a classic ‘wave the flag’ maneuver. Taiwan is an obvious target, for various reasons. Right now XI is in a wait and see mode to see if his efforts to buy and subvert the US 2020 election succeed. If it does, there will be little need for major military action other than ‘reclaiming’ Formosa, which Xi knows the US won’t oppose. If OMB is reelected, who knows. I personally expect Xi to be removed, and quickly, were that to happen. A war with the US would be catastrophic for China, they’re not a self-contained economy, they rely on overseas trade too much and their long long logistical supply chains are crazily vulnerable. Whereas the US could survive such a conflict, their production being overwhelmingly consumed locally.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    I believe Ms. Flournoy is the frontrunner to be defense secretary or NSA in any future Democratic administration.

    I will focus on one piece of the article.

    “A strategic miscalculation might involve Chinese leaders choosing to blockade or attack Taiwan in the near term or midterm based on a set of strongly held beliefs about the United States as a declining power—one racked by internal political divisions, preoccupied with domestic crises, no longer showing up in the region diplomatically, lacking the military capabilities that might be effective in the face of A2/AD, and with an uncertain commitment to defending Taiwan.”

    Are the Chinese beliefs wrong or are they assessing reality?

    1. Racked by internal political divisions
    2. Preoccupied with domestic crisis
    3. No longer showing up in the region diplomatically
    4. lacking the military capabilities that might be effective in the face of A2/AD
    5. uncertain commitment to defending Taiwan

    Except for (3) and partially (5); the assessments are probably more true than not.

    Can any plan to address (3), (4), and (5) realistically work without addressing (1) and (2)?

  • steve Link

    Andy might know, but I am not sure how effective we expect their A2/AD efforts to be. We spent years building up the Soviet Army as a threat and it turned out that they actually had pretty limited capabilities by the end of the Cold War. We should avoid war with them for lots of reasons, not the least being how could we win in any meaningful way? What are the risks of nukes if it actually looked like we were winning? (Not really sure how China could actually win any war either.)

    Steve

  • Andy Link

    A surprisingly good piece from Flournoy.

    The last passage you quoted has been known for well over a decade. One of the themes I return to frequently is judging actions separate from words. In the case of China, their actions are clear – they’re building the specific military capabilities needed to fight a war with the US.

    Are the Chinese beliefs wrong or are they assessing reality?

    1. Racked by internal political divisions
    2. Preoccupied with domestic crisis
    3. No longer showing up in the region diplomatically
    4. lacking the military capabilities that might be effective in the face of A2/AD
    5. uncertain commitment to defending Taiwan

    Reality matters much less than what the Chinese leadership perceives to be the reality. Adversaries have a long history of misanalyzing the US, what we would do, and how we would respond.

    And there are cost-benefit tradeoffs that the Chinese are certainly aware of. One key leg of our policy should be avoiding putting China in a position where they see war as the only alternative.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    I saw scholar’s stage explain why A2/AD could be a problem. It is not so much Chinese have super advanced weaponry but the fact that US forces are super concentrated to a few bases in Asia; and not resilient against a knockout attempt like the Japanese tried at Pearl Harbor.

    In Japan, 3/4 of military facilities are on the island of Okinawa. In South Korea, forces are concentrated in 2 cities. After that is the navy carriers.

    I personally don’t believe adventurism is the Chinese government’s primary goal in the near term. My bet is Xi Jinping will focus his energies on surviving any attempt towards China being cut off from the US-dollar financial system. Reining in Hong Kong is evidence of that.

  • Andy Link

    “Andy might know, but I am not sure how effective we expect their A2/AD efforts to be.”

    It’s actually something we’re very concerned about. The geography of the region favors the A2/AD side not least because we have a limited number of bases in the region and all of them are vulnerable to Chinese attack. US forces have become too accustomed to establishing airspace dominance quickly and preventing significant attacks on our logistics, communication, intelligence, and supporting infrastructure. China has built capabilities to attack all those directly and quickly at the start of a conflict.

    The problem for the Chinese is they have no warfighting experience and so their doctrine, training, etc. are completely untested. Additionally, excepting nukes, China has very little ability to strike into the open Pacific, much less the US itself, so it would be very challenging (to say the least) for them to decisively defeat us.

    I think, at least at present, the advantage would be on the Chinese side at the beginning of the war, but the longer it goes on, the more the advantage shifts to the US. I think it would be analogous to the Pacific campaign in WWII in that regard. China would want to achieve it’s war objectives as quickly as possible.

    Of course, this all depends on the nature of the war itself and the political ends that each side is trying to achieve.

  • bob sykes Link

    The real problem is the very belligerent policy of the US towards China North Korea, Russia, Iran, Venezuela and our open hostility towards Turkey. There is also our Deep State’s delusion that the US has absolute military supremacy in all theaters. This is a recipe for disaster.

    This is compounded by the very real collapse the US is experiencing: basically a low intensity civil war among our elites; worsening economic conditions in our working and middles classes; and extreme inter-racial hostility, approaching open race war.

    Then there is our Potemkin economy: a hollowed out and minimized manufacturing sector, which is still shrinking; and a stock market supported by the fed, rather than economic fundamentals.

    The Taiwan problem is another matter. In the Shanghai Communique of 1972, the US recognized that Taiwan Was part of China. Our position was that reintegration should be evolutionary and peaceful, but Mao and the CCP did not promise that, and reserved the use of force. If that were to happen, Taiwan could not defend itself, and any American attempt to intervene would be crushed. Hopefully, no regional or world war would ensue. But who knows. It took a month or so of dithering for the Europeans to work themselves up to war after the assassinations in Sarajevo.

  • TarsTarkas Link

    ‘Mao and the CCP did not promise that, and reserved the use of force. If that were to happen, Taiwan could not defend itself, and any American attempt to intervene would be crushed.’

    I would expect a move on Taiwan soon after a Democratic victory in 2020, something on the order of ‘surrender or we nuke you’ or setting up a blockade.

    Militarily, I think Taiwan could thwart an amphibious or airborne landing on its own. Ninety miles of sea is nothing to sneeze at as an obstacle, the build-up for the assault couldn’t be hidden, their army has been training for it for decades, and the terrain favors the defender. It’s what might happen should China try to conquer Taiwan and fail that worries me.

    One thing the Han Empire has always displayed during the ascendant periods of all its incarnations is extreme chuckle-headed arrogance. That comes from their Middle Kingdom attitude, that the Han are the Crown of Creation. Which doesn’t bother me particularly, all powerful nations have had that attitude. But when it’s coupled with expansionist imperialism, that’s the time to watch out. If Kaiser Wilhelm II hadn’t been so insistent on carving out getting a place in the sun for Germany, the world would have been a much different and possibly better place.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    Well Scholar’s stage also pointed out Taiwan is woefully unprepared to make an initially invasion costly (of course in the long term; an invasion would produce a generations long resistance movement).

    What perhaps was not said in the article because it is an election year; given COVID and riots, the US is not in any shape to spend more on guns. In fact, an earnest discussion needs to happen with US friends / allies / clients that US will do less with a lot less; and they should plan accordingly.

  • In fact, an earnest discussion needs to happen with US friends / allies / clients that US will do less with a lot less; and they should plan accordingly.

    I’m not sure that you or U. S. foreign policy experts realize how drastic a change that would be. The thrust of the entire U. S. post-war foreign policy defense posture has been to infantilize allies and assume their share of the responsibilities for their own defense. We don’t just want to have a military that’s able to defend the country; we want a military that’s so powerful it discourages both allies and potential adversaries from investing in their own military capabilities.

    The result is that we have impoverished ourselves, our potential adversaries have invested in militaries capable of exploiting our weak points, and our allies are convinced that the peace that we have created is the natural order of things. They’re as deluded as those in this country who think that police forces are unnecessary.

  • TarsTarkas Link

    ‘The thrust of the entire U. S. post-war foreign policy defense posture has been to infantilize allies and assume their share of the responsibilities for their own defense.’

    I don’t think that was the original intent. Truman certainly ramped down the armed forces after WWII. The build back up occurred after the Korean War started, when it became clear to policymakers that like it or not America had become an imperial power and that we had to have the military to defend our empire or Stalin would take it from us.

    Considering the tendency for Europe to start catastrophic continent-wide wars every few generations, their effectively having been occupied and militarily emasculated for 75 years isn’t necessarily a bad thing. But I agree it’s way past time to let them stand on their own feet.

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  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    Grey, the article has the right idea.

    It goes into an interesting topic. While the Chinese issue is untested doctrine, the US may have an even worse issue; outdated doctrine.

    To riff on some other points that came up as I read the article.

    How do we get from here to there? i.e assume the article is right it is going to take 10 years to get the appropriate carrier and a lot of money for R&D. The existing naval fleet costs money, all in a competition for fewer dollars. If one diverts the money from the existing fleet then the current ability to project force into the Middle East and Asia is diminished — creating howls from the generals (look at Afghanistan or Syria).

    Another is where is the industrial backing for the carrier fleet. In WW2, the Pacific War was won because Americans had more carriers and could build far more carriers then the Japanese. Today; I believe the Chinese shipbuilding industry is an order of magnitude larger then the US. If that is not addressed; even the correct ship won’t rectify the situation.

  • TMLutas Link

    Any discussion of emerging technical capabilities without at least mentioning lasers and railguns as US capabilities is unlikely to be realistic.

    The cost per shot and the number of shots that can be carried on a ship puts the US in a very different position than the linked article thinks we will be in the medium term.

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