What About Fluvoxamine?

Continuing in the vein of a discussion going on in comments, in the Wall Street Journal Allysia Finlay reports on a relatively inexpensive drug that’s been approved by the FDA for another purpose for quite a while that has shown some promise in treating COVID-19:

Yet a promising alternative isn’t getting its due: fluvoxamine, a pill the FDA approved in 1994 to treat obsessive-compulsive disorders. Doctors often prescribe it off-label for anxiety, depression and panic attacks. Studies show that fluvoxamine is highly effective at preventing hospitalization in Covid-infected patients, and it’s unlikely to be blunted by Omicron.

Doctors hypothesize that fluvoxamine can trigger a cascade of reactions in cells that modulate inflammation and interfere with virus functions. It could thus prevent an overreactive immune response to pathogens—what’s known as a cytokine storm—that can lead to organ failure and death. It also increases nighttime levels of melatonin—the hormone that makes you sleepy—which evidence suggests can also mitigate inflammation.

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A small randomized control trial last year by psychiatrists at the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis was a spectacular success: None of the 80 participants who started fluvoxamine within seven days of developing symptoms deteriorated. In the placebo group, six of the 72 patients got worse, and four were hospitalized. The results were published in November 2020 in the Journal of the American Medical Association and inspired a real-world experiment.

Soon after the study was published, there was a Covid outbreak among employees at the Golden Gate Fields horse racing track in Berkeley, Calif. The physician at the track offered fluvoxamine to workers. After 14 days, none of the 65 patients who took it were hospitalized or still had symptoms. Of the 48 who didn’t take the drug, six, or 12.5%, were hospitalized and one died. Twenty-nine had lingering symptoms, which might have resulted from inflammatory damage to their organs. Those who took the placebo were more likely to be asymptomatic when they tested positive, so they would have been expected to fare better.

The studies drew the attention of Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health. “A big need right now is for a drug that you could take by mouth, that you could be offered as soon as you had a positive test, and that would reduce the likelihood that the virus is going to make you really sick,” he said in an interview with “60 Minutes” in March. “Fluvoxamine could certainly be something you want to put in the tool chest,” Dr. Collins added. “It looks as if it has the promise to reduce the likelihood of severe illness.”

Researchers at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, last winter launched a large clinical trial in Brazil. The results from their trial, published in the Lancet in October, were stunning: Fluvoxamine reduced the odds of hospitalization or emergency care by 66% and death by 90% among unvaccinated high-risk patients who mostly followed the treatment regimen—comparable to monoclonal antibodies. There was no difference in adverse effects between the fluvoxamine and placebo groups.

I have a certain amount of sympathy with the NIH and FDA on this one. I do wonder, however, how you reconcile patience in using a drug that’s been approved for quite and while and, consequently, reasonably well-known with the hurried emergency use authorizations being given to various vaccines and much more expensive pharmaceuticals used for treating the disease. Could its patent having elapsed a year and a half ago have anything to do with it?

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  • Jan Link

    You mean to say a re-purposed drug, used as an anti depressant, could be helpful as an antiviral!!!

    Wow, where have I read/heard about the application of repurposed drugs before as a viable option!

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    You mean inexpensive instead of expensive.

    I have seen quite a few on “medical COVID twitter” advocate the FDA update its guidelines on Fluvoxamine. In fact, a request for an EUA for Fluvoxamine by a infectious disease doctor in Minnesota who’s been running a clinical trial on fluvoxamine.

    https://twin-cities.umn.edu/news-events/covid-drug-treatments

    Note I think the doctor making the application isn’t a crank. (A good sign is he states Paxlovid, monoclonal abs are clearly superior to fluvoxamine); and getting vaccinated is superior to medical treatments.

    The main plus to fluvoxamine is its availability.

    Ontario has put Flavoxamine as a drug doctors may consider prescribing for COVID.

    BTW, the hypothisized mechanism of action of fluvoxamine isn’t as an anti-viral; its that modulates the immune system from over-reacting; so similar to steroids.

  • Corrected, thank you.

  • Drew Link

    “Wow, where have I read/heard about the application of repurposed drugs before as a viable option!”

    You silly goose, you. Steve – He Who Reads Technical Papers Better Than All of Humanity -might disagree. I laughed out loud at your comment a bit ago about how he was a standard issue conformist. For years I’ve viewed him as a set piece player.

    I know plenty of doctors, and nurses. Including, perhaps most importantly, one at the epicenter of clinical and research activities on covid at Johns Hopkins. Let’s just say that there are alternative views unbiased by politics that might differ from steves takes. Data integrity being issue one.

    Just sayin’

  • steve Link

    There is quite a bit of data on fluvoxamine. We are using it. I think the 66% number is pretty high and 30% is more likely, about the same as the Merck drug. Some of our ED docs have been slow adopting it as it is commonly used as a psych drug and it is not something they usually order. The difference between this and the drugs advocated by others here is that there are good, well done studies supporting its use. I am honestly surprised this about fluvoxamine is actually news to anyone.

    Cost just isn’t a factor. Few doctors know the costs of the drugs they order. Other than some chemo drugs we dont usually get paid mor for less based upon the drugs we choose. Hospitals generally like for us to use cheaper drugs (some hospitals make it difficult to not use the cheapest drugs) but as long as there is a good clinical reason they generally accept using more expensive drugs.

    Being off patent may cause issues since you wont have a drug company willing to do all of the work to push to have it an official Covid drug even with the positive studies. Cant remember the details but some people at FDA or who work with them found a way around that. Monoclonals, the right kind, do work better and on paper Paxlovid is much better. If Paxlovid works as claimed Fluvoxamine will be at best a bridging drug until we have enough Paxlovid.

    Steve

  • Being off patent may cause issues since you wont have a drug company willing to do all of the work to push to have it an official Covid drug even with the positive studies.

    Yes, that was my point. It’s sad but it’s a reality.

  • steve Link

    Yes, but as I said, I think that has already been resolved. Will see if I can find article on that. I think the bigger issue is that it is an SSRI and that will worry people a bit since as a group they have weird side effects, ones you cant necessarily figure out by its pharmacology but you just have to remember. Drugs like Coumadin and beta blockers. So I think that plus it is off label will deter quite a few people. Only a few of our ED docs are using it.

    Also you need to give it early. We really need a drug that works at all stages, which really means we probably need multipole drugs for several stages. (Was this really the first you had heard of this? I do medicine for a living and probably have better access to more sources but my sense is that there is essentially zero lag in information going into general circulation. Maybe that is not as true as I thought?)

    Steve

  • steve Link

    Link goes to what I think is the first pretty well done study in November 2020. It is randomized, prospective and with controls. However, it is too small and there are some issues with exclusions. The authors note at the end these problems. They also note the issues with drug interactions. They say, correctly, that this should lead to a bigger study and should include a larger range of patients. In Ivermectin world this would be considered proof positive that the drug works. Absent a politically driven advocacy group fluvoxamine gets treated like any other drug and gets a serious evaluation.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2773108

    Steve

  • Jan Link

    ”It appears that the mistrust of the CDC, FDA, NIH — even hospitals and physician groups — for incessantly pushing a vaccine is growing. To this end, I am hearing of doctors who refuse to see unvaccinated patients, hospitals that slow-walk treatment with unvaccinated patients, and even pediatricians who push COVID vaccinations on kids as young as five. This violation of basic medical ethics is not only disgraceful, but dangerous in the long term.

    It is becoming increasingly important to look for doctors and other medical professionals who share your philosophy and outlook in achieving your well-being. If this approach upsets the woke establishment’s lockstep demand for uniformity and control, so be it.”

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/12/covid_treatment_protocols_and_the_death_of_trust_your_doctor.html

  • steve Link

    1) It is not abusive for a pediatrician to suggest kids as young as 5 get vaccinated.

    2) Again, more vague claims. Inconsistent also. Why would the unvaccinated go to the hospital when they get sick.? Just take more Ivermectin or supplements. I think refusing to care for the unvaccinated is rare but probably real. The unvaccinated are all too often hostile and abusive. So docs and nurses end up taking care of pts who probably wouldn’t be there if they had been vaccinated and they are jerks on top of that. So I am sure people have acted out on those feelings. I am unaware of any of our staff doing that. We have had several walk out and say they were not returning at the end of a shift.

    3) Slow walk? We are short on staff and a lot of hospitals are full, largely with the unvaccinated. If there are not enough staff your care may be slow. You help create a crisis and then whine about the results.

    4) We are down to 1 ICU bed for our network. We dont really have the staff to create and run additional ICUs like we did in March 2020. We met last year and established crisis care protocols. We are meeting again tomorrow to review those since it actually seems more likely we might need them this time. We used several different criteria to set our protocol. The one from the AMA is below. I dont know if we are going to consider vaccination status. Seems like we should since they are more likely to need the limited resources and less likely to do well when they receive them. I am guessing we will not as it feels too much like we are punishing people who have been lied to and mislead, but if we were being unemotional about it we should. (Bones vs Spock)

    Triage decisions must be based on criteria related to medical need, not on non-medical criteria such as patients’ social worth.

    When criteria of medical need distinguish among patients, allocate limited resources first based on likelihood of benefit or to avoid premature death, and then to promote the greatest duration of benefit after recovery.

    When criteria of medical need do not substantially distinguish among patients, allocate limited resources by an objective and transparent mechanism, such as random choice or lottery to minimize potential bias, as opposed to “first come, first served,” which may unfairly privilege patients who have the means to seek care promptly.

    Periodically reassess ongoing life-sustaining treatments for all patients. When continued treatment is substantially unlikely to achieve the intended goal of care it may be withdrawn.

    Explain the policies and procedures by which triage decisions that allocate life-sustaining treatments are made and provide a process for appealing decisions when such treatments will be withheld or withdrawn.

    Palliative care must be provided when life-sustaining treatments are withheld or withdrawn.

    Steve

  • Jan Link
  • steve Link

    As usual, no evidence is offered to support the claims.

    Steve

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