Here in Chicago the 4th of July weekend has historically been the one weekend of the year with the highest number of homicides. Based on the statistics produced at Hey,Jackass! 2024 has already exceeded the number of homicides in the two prior years and may well exceed the number in 2021 and 2022. 17 people have been killed and 81 wounded. And that doesn’t include the man who blew his own head off with fireworks.
With Sunday night left to go who knows how high the tally will climb?
Update
The final tally is 19 killed, 85 wounded. As awful as that is it’s actually a relief that the number killed does not exceed the number in the Fourth of July weekend of 2021 or the Fourth of July weekend of 2020.
What numbers are you using? I looked at your site. I used link below. It shows 304 killed 2022, 301 2023 and 247 2024. For total shot it says 1594 for 2022, 1467 for 2023 and 1436 for 2024. It looks like all of the numbers are through 6/30. You can confirm that by looking at the graph and the Fatality Rate (FR). This is on the right side about halfway down. Are there other numbers there somewhere? Did I misread?
https://heyjackass.com
Steve
steve,
Scroll down to the July 4th weekend section.
My daughter was in Chicago this weekend with friends. I got the obligatory texted pictures from a Cubs game (3rd base side; 11th row!!) At least she wasn’t down in my beloved Sox – land. They shoot people indiscriminately. All a parent could say was: be aware of your surroundings.
Steve – are you just that partisan, stupid or callous that you disregard reality? Dave’s stats are the same as I saw in a Chicago Sun Times article this AM. By now they must have shot a hundred, and dead must approach 25. Why must you be such a filthy partisan political bitch? Parts of Chicago, and so many cities are just killing fields. Your gross statistics aside. Do you care? Or is it just all Dem support all the time?
Now,…..now, Steve,…………..as my dear, departed Grandmother used to say,………..”If you don’t have something nice to say about someone else,………then come over here and sit by me and tell me everything you know and don’t leave out any details.”
This is the doings of the feral Negro underclass. While I really don’t care when they kill their own, the possibility of spill over to Whites cannot be ignored. What is needed in Chicago and the broader US is a very heavy police crack down on the Negro underclass. If this is not done, there will be a wide spread collapse of civil society in all our cities. This is an existential crisis.
Andy- Dave said this “2024 has already exceeded the number of homicides in the two prior years and may well exceed the number in 2021 and 2022.” July 4th might have been highest, I am not disputing that, just the claim for the whole year. Now, I mistakenly used the shooting numbers. If you scroll down on the left side it says the total homicides for 2024 is 310 currently and is trending to 358 for the end of July (chart specifically says they are end of july numbers, not for the entire year). In 2023 those numbers were 338 and 388 and for 2022 they were 351 and 405. Chart goes back to 2014 and 2016, 2017, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023 were worse than 2024.
Take your meds Drew. I just thought the numbers were surprising since we have seen large drops in homicide in most cities. July 4th weekend aside, it looks like Chicago has been steadily dropping since peaking in 2021.
Steve
steve,
Dave can resolve the miscommunication, but I understood the 2024 vs other years to only refer to the July 4th weekend. The sentence before the years refers specifically to July 4th weekend, and the sentence after gives the casualties for this year’s weekend. Although I think Dave meant to say “exceed the number in 2020 and 2021” instead of 2021 and 2022.
What I intended to express was that the number of homicides in this year’s Fourth of July weekend exceeded those in the Fourth of July weekend for 2022 and the Fourth of July weekend for 2023 but not those during the Fourth of July weekend for 2021 or the Fourth of July weekend for 2020. Those two weekends remain the worst of the last decade with this past weekend the third worst.
I thought what I was trying to say was pretty obvious from the context. Apparently not.
Grammar Nazi wife reads Hey Jackass every day. She says that if you do then you know the obsession over the 4th weekend and what you wrote is perfectly clear. Absent that background it could be taken either way. Also, I guess my strong bias towards using a very small bit of data to make some kind of point when lots more is available is very bad influences me. In medicine the use of small numbers in studies is how people “prove” whatever they want to prove.
Steve
Data is data, Steve. Murder is local, not spread like peanut butter. Nice try. But pure bullshit
I sure am glad all those people got shot and killed in Chicago. Look, it could have been worse. And let’s get real. At least it’s almost all in the coloreds. “They are animals anyway.” And hey, by dying this way they don’t have a risk of cancer…. So all hail Democrats!!
Right, Steve?
No. Data is not data. If you want to address murder rates you want more numbers over a longer period. This is more like anecdata. It’s perfectly fine to have some special interest in the July 4 w/e but it’s not especially relevant to the wider issue.
Steve
Here’s a longer view (also from HeyJackass.com):
Adjusted for population 2021 was the worst year ever for homicides in Chicago. Our mayor wants to address root causes. There’s some indication that, in the case of Chicago, the handgun ban reduced total homicides but I don’t think that’s what he means. I think he means not enough social spending.
Is there evidence the handgun ban affected homicide rates? It looks to me like it’s pretty much the same pattern you see in the rest of the country. Crime went down in every big city and every big city claimed that it was their own special interventions that worked.
Steve