Question

I have a question. Is nationalism on the part of whites the same as “white nationalism”?

Also, I can see the allure of a world without nationalism. I don’t think that a world in which the United States is the only country that isn’t nationalistic is particularly appealing.

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  • Andy Link

    White added to anything seems to be a pejorative these days.

  • PD Shaw Link

    Lincoln is generally considered a nationalist; famous historian James A. Rawley referred to him as “the supreme nationalist in the history of the United States.” Some of that may be because the Civil War uniquely expanded the role of the national government and called upon national identity for popular support. But he was always an advocate of Clay’s “American System” of protective tariffs, national banking and infrastructure improvements. His anti-slavery attitudes were formed in a specific view of a national identity based upon freedom, to which slavery was a temporary compromise intended to eventually fade away.

  • Ben Wolf Link

    I define a white nationalist as a defender of white-ness: the juedo-christian, Western values trope that supposedly unites europeans in cultural superiority. A black man can be part so long as they adopt the required values. Obviously this can comes in more and less virulent strains, pretending of course that Western civilization were actually a thing.

  • steve Link

    I assume this is a rhetorical question since the answer is pretty obvious I think.

    Steve

  • Gray Shambler Link

    To me, Nationalism is one of the ways we group ourselves for identity, safety, status, social “geling” which is how we know who and maybe why we are. Others are family, faith, class, clan, and of course race.
    If you ask, could I accept American Nationalism if the power , (financial and political) in America were predominantly Asian American, I would have to say yes. As long as the constitution were upheld and enforced.
    Does Nationalism in South Africa mean Black Nationalism? What do you call it in Iran?
    No, people have the right to organize as nations for security. The rest is just name-calling and power juggling. A tactic.

  • bob sykes Link

    The meaning of “White nationalism (ist)” is not obvious to me. Richard B. Spencer a white supremacist, anti-semite, anti-black racist and socialist is often called a White nationalist. That’s one extreme. The other is likely Vox Day, who thinks White nationalism is an oxymoron, but strongly believes in various European ethnic nationalisms, like Italian, German, English (narrowly defined), Jewish, et al.

    The same problem exists with “alt-right.” Again, Richard B. Spencer and Vox Day seem to be the poles.

    The MSM always uses Spencer’s definitions, and only his, which adds to the confusion.

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