Put Up or Shut Up

I agree with the assessment of the editors of the Wall Street Journal about the election:

Chatter is swirling around Dominion Voting, a company that supplies equipment in some 28 states. What seems to have launched this theory was an early misreport of results in Antrim County, Mich. In 2016 Mr. Trump won 62% of its 13,600 ballots, so eyebrows rose this year when the initial tallies showed Mr. Biden up by 3,000.

In reality, Mr. Trump had won 61% of Antrim County. The unofficial reporting was wrong, but the underlying votes were counted correctly. As officials later explained: In October the county had to tweak the ballot information for two local races. Tabulating machines in the affected areas were updated, but others weren’t. On Election Day the differing data didn’t line up right after being merged. But the printouts from the tabulators showed accurate totals.

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No voting system is foolproof, and hiccups are inevitable in a country with roughly 3,000 counties. The distributed nature of American elections is a strength on this point, since voting is handled by innumerable local officials instead of a few central authorities. Texas has declined to certify Dominion systems for its elections. The examiners objected to everything from the “tedious” and “unintuitive” setup, to a crash they witnessed in an adjudication module, to an indicator light that hackers could hypothetically remove to get at a USB port.

But so far there’s no good evidence of voting problems that would come close to Mr. Biden’s lead of 73,000 votes in Pennsylvania or 145,000 in Michigan. In Georgia, the Republican Secretary of State last week ordered a hand recount of all five million ballots. The effort turned up 2,600 missing votes that Floyd County forgot to upload. Adding them would cut Mr. Biden’s lead to slightly north of 13,000. But the error isn’t Dominion’s fault, and it better hope no glitches are revealed, given its 10-year contract with the state for $107 million.

If Georgia’s recount doesn’t find big irregularities, then these claims should be put to rest. In the George W. Bush years, the conspiratorial left focused on Diebold, a maker of electronic voting machines. It would be a mistake for anyone on the right to go down a similar dead end, especially if Georgia’s paper ballots give the same result as the computers.

Yes, I recognize that the outcome of the election has hinged largely on the results from just four cities (Philadelphia, Atlanta, Detroit, and Milwaukee) and there are statistical peculiarities in the vote totals in each of those cities. The world is full of odd statistical peculiarities.

As I have been saying for some time, in the absence of some actual evidence of wrongdoing, more than statistical anomalies, this election is over and Joe Biden has been elected.

11 comments… add one
  • Drew Link

    “The world is full of odd statistical peculiarities.”

    Not 5-6 Sigma events, in multiple strategic geographies, but not elsewhere.

    It may indeed be over, but that doesn’t rule out systemic fraud. The two are not mutually exclusive. It should put a chill through peoples spines.

  • While I agree that it looks pretty unlikely, for a court to step in actual evidence of wrongdoing is needed rather than a statistical argument. For one thing most judges haven’t taken a math course since they were in junior high and that was a half century or more ago.

  • Drew Link

    I understand, and agree. It will take an action to throw out ballots, probably driven by violation of state law under executive orders vs legislative mandate. But that’s just a shrug of the shoulders at massive fraud. I question the judgment of those who seem to say “oh, whatever” or the ends justify the means. We as a nation don’t want to be there.

    This is just one example of why this matters:

    https://jonathanturley.org/2020/11/17/all-speech-is-not-equal-biden-taps-anti-free-speech-figure-for-transition-lead-on-media-agency/

  • Grey Shambler Link

    The O’Bamin administration is already accusing Trump of mass murder for not talking masks.
    Sensible people know it’s a balancing act between death and the economy.
    But, O’Biden owns the media.
    In fact, the interviews I’ve seen are not with Biden, but his boss.

  • steve Link

    You should never throw out ballots based upon some statistical analysis. First, you can lie with numbers. Second, statistics should only lead you to go look for evidence of wrongdoing. They are already doing that and not finding it. In states where the government is run by Republicans. So once again we have conservatives claiming there is massive voter fraud and once again they cant find it. At what point do we stop listening to this whining? Shouldn’t they be able to find some evidence at some point before we continue taking this even remotely seriously?

    Steve

  • Drew Link

    We shall see. Those who dismiss out of hand are self identifying as low moral people. Is it enough to have the courts intervene? Not sure. But anyone who denies massive fraud is suspect.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/sidney_powell_absent_software_fraud_trump_had_at_least_80_million_votes.html

  • At this point I’ve seen three different statistical analyses coming at the matter from different angles, all of which found that it was extremely unlikely (extremely as in one chance in billions) that the results were naturally occurring.

    Believing shady things are going on and having enough proof to get a court to intervene are two different things.

  • steve Link

    “Those who dismiss out of hand are self identifying as low moral people.”

    Those who claim after every election that there was massive fraud, but cant find any, are idiots and liars. Pick one.

  • TastyBits Link

    @steve

    First, you can lie with numbers. Second, statistics should only lead you to go look for evidence of wrongdoing.

    Thank you. Statistics is not reality, and nothing can be proven or disproven using statistics. Statistically impossible is still quite possible. Hence, statistics ain’t science.

    @Dave Schuler

    … all of which found that it was extremely unlikely (extremely as in one chance in billions) that the results were naturally occurring.

    So, you’re telling me there’s a chance?

  • steve Link

    ” all of which found that it was extremely unlikely (extremely as in one chance in billions) that the results were naturally occurring.”

    Would love to see their math. Strongly suspect GIGO. So what is the probability of their being millions of fraudulent votes and not being able to find any? I would guess much less than one in billions.

    Steve

  • So what is the probability of their being millions of fraudulent votes and not being able to find any?

    I think you’re characterizing the problem wrong. Fraudulent votes have been found but not in sufficient numbers to overturn the election. It’s not a case of “not being able to find any”.

    As I have said again and again, proof of some actual wrongdoing of sufficient magnitude so as to change the outcome needs to be produced. So far the closest appears to be the sworn affidavits of misconduct at post offices. The WaPo’s claim that these affidavits have been rescinded or disavowed appears to be false.

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