It’s All in the Numbers

While most of the reaction I have seen in the major media outlets about the election results has expressed shock and dismay, more thoughtful commentary is beginning to trickle out. I think that David Brooks’s most recent New York Times column may be one of his best ever. He opens with a disposition on the trends of the last, say, 40 years:

We have entered a new political era. For the past 40 years or so, we lived in the information age. Those of us in the educated class decided, with some justification, that the postindustrial economy would be built by people like ourselves, so we tailored social policies to meet our needs.

Our education policy pushed people toward the course we followed — four-year colleges so that they would be qualified for the “jobs of the future.” Meanwhile, vocational training withered. We embraced a free trade policy that moved industrial jobs to low-cost countries overseas so that we could focus our energies on knowledge economy enterprises run by people with advanced degrees. The financial and consulting sector mushroomed while manufacturing employment shriveled.

Geography was deemed unimportant — if capital and high-skill labor wanted to cluster in Austin, San Francisco and Washington, it didn’t really matter what happened to all those other communities left behind. Immigration policies gave highly educated people access to low-wage labor while less-skilled workers faced new competition. We shifted toward green technologies favored by people who work in pixels, and we disfavored people in manufacturing and transportation whose livelihoods depend on fossil fuels.

I’ve been complaining about this for decades. Why? My answer is in the title of this post: it’s the numbers. The country with the largest proportion of college grads is Canada at 54% (Russia has the same percentage). The percentage of college grads in the U. S. is around 44% while 61% have “some college”.

I don’t conclude that all is well for 44% of Americans from that. I conclude that something between 15% and 30% of Americans don’t have jobs that actually require college degrees and are saddled with educational debt they will never be able to pay off. And as I’ve documented here in the past, an astonishing percentage of the “educated class” are employed by the government in one form or another. Not all by any means but a very large percentage.

Here’s the rub. There are more people with college degrees in India than there are people in the United States and they all speak English.

What it means is that the “knowledge economy” leaves 2/3s of Americans behind and bitterly unhappy with their lot. That’s no way to run a railroad.

Mr. Brooks goes on to describe exactly that situation:

Nine days before the elections, I visited a Christian nationalist church in Tennessee. The service was illuminated by genuine faith, it is true, but also a corrosive atmosphere of bitterness, aggression, betrayal. As the pastor went on about the Judases who seek to destroy us, the phrase “dark world” popped into my head — an image of a people who perceive themselves to be living under constant threat and in a culture of extreme distrust. These people, and many other Americans, weren’t interested in the politics of joy that Kamala Harris and the other law school grads were offering.

and

Many on the left focused on racial inequality, gender inequality and L.G.B.T.Q. inequality. I guess it’s hard to focus on class inequality when you went to a college with a multibillion-dollar endowment and do environmental greenwashing and diversity seminars for a major corporation.

concluding:

Donald Trump is a monstrous narcissist, but there’s something off about an educated class that looks in the mirror of society and sees only itself.

a very good turn of phrase and almost precisely my view.

Here’s Mr. Brooks’s summary of the election:

As the left veered toward identitarian performance art, Donald Trump jumped into the class war with both feet. His Queens-born resentment of the Manhattan elites dovetailed magically with the class animosity being felt by rural people across the country. His message was simple: These people have betrayed you, and they are morons to boot.

In 2024, he built the very thing the Democratic Party once tried to build — a multiracial, working-class majority. His support surged among Black and Hispanic workers. He recorded astonishing gains in places like New Jersey, the Bronx, Chicago, Dallas and Houston. According to the NBC exit polls he won a third of voters of color. He’s the first Republican to win a majority of the votes in 20 years.

which is remarkably similar to what Ruy Teixeira has been complaining about for some time.

He then declaims that the Democrats need to do some humble self-analysis:

Can the Democratic Party do this? Can the party of the universities, the affluent suburbs and the hipster urban cores do this? Well, Donald Trump hijacked a corporate party, which hardly seemed like a vehicle for proletarian revolt, and did exactly that. Those of us who condescend to Trump should feel humbled — he did something none of us could do.

Here’s his conclusion:

Trump is a sower of chaos, not fascism. Over the next few years, a plague of disorder will descend upon America, and maybe the world, shaking everything loose. If you hate polarization, just wait until we experience global disorder. But in chaos there’s opportunity for a new society and a new response to the Trumpian political, economic and psychological assault. These are the times that try people’s souls, and we’ll see what we are made of.

31 comments… add one
  • Drew Link

    “Trump is a sower of chaos,…”

    This is perhaps the only material thing I disagree with. He is actually a disrupter. And the cool and profitable gig that so many in academia, government, large corporate and media had created was in jeopardy. How many times have I commented here that as such, he had to be destroyed by any means, including the truly evil lawfare?

    There are a number of commenters here who have repeatedly made the same observations as Brooks. And some who just haven’t been able to come to grips with it. And if you go over to OTB and dabble around you will see some who are hopeless cases.

    Its on Trump now. No excuses. He’s got the House and Senate. Perform.

    BTW – I slept well last night; no concerns that the writers at the NY Times or the staff at MSNBC would be rounded up and sent to the firing squad. Kinda thinkin’ that’s not going to happen………..

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    It maybe very little Democrats need to change from this election.

    If there was a 1% swing from Trump to Kamala (Trump loses 1% of the vote while Kamala gains 1%) in the swing states, GA, MI, WI, PA would all have stayed Democratic, and Harris is President-elect, or in absolute terms, 330 thousand voters.

    That could be solved with demographic trends (GA is very clearly moving in the Democrats direction), a better ground game, and simply not being the incumbent party (Republicans will have the burden of trying to stay in the White House for 12 of 16 years in 2028).

  • He is actually a disrupter.

    I completely agree with that assessment, indeed, I thought of it myself. Should have included it in the post (it was in an earlier version). That itself looks like chaos to an “educated class” that is satisfied with the status quo and the direction in which things are going.

  • CuriousOnlooker:

    If our foreign policy continues in the direction in which it has been going for decades, we may not have to worry about that. Global nuclear war will have wiped out much of the population by then.

  • Drew Link

    I would add to curious’ comment the notion that Trump was a very flawed candidate, which probably suppressed his vote.

    Provided things go well over the next 3 1/2 years JD Vance will have a huge leg up in the next election. But Ron DiSantis is the best governor in America – a true executive – and will be right there. It might not be so razor thin as imagined.

  • TastyBits Link

    Mr. Brooks, OTB, and their elite cohorts are clowns. With reality staring them in the face, they chose to ignore it and believe their own fantasy. Most of them will expand that fantasy and continue living in it. They are so predictable.

    Their heads are so far up their ass that they believe their shit is reality and that it smells like roses. Most of them refuse to accept the reality that they are wrong and that they are the ones who need to adjust their thinking. Of course, they won’t.

    Luckily, they will eventually die out, and their beliefs will be tossed onto the trash heap of history. President Biden perfectly embodies their beliefs – a senile, racist pedophile.

    @Drew
    BTW – I slept well last night; no concerns that the writers at the NY Times or the staff at MSNBC would be rounded up and sent to the firing squad. Kinda thinkin’ that’s not going to happen………..

    Trump’s Gray Shirt Geriatric brigades have been marching (or hobbling) up and down my street waving their canes in the air, and this morning I heard a Russian tank moving down my street, stopping at every house.

    (It might have been the garbage truck. My garbage cans were empty, but that is how Trump fools people about his being a Russian agent.)

    This is too much fun.

  • TastyBits:

    You wrote:

    Most of them refuse to accept the reality that they are wrong and that they are the ones who need to adjust their thinking.

    That’s the root of the problem, of course. I don’t believe I’ll live long enough to see it die out; I doubt it will ever die out. According to Pew Research 30% of those under 30 are progressives.

  • TastyBits Link

    Progressives always push things too far, and unfortunately, the eventual backlash goes too far the other way. The “happy medium” is simply a temporary resting spot.

    For all the talk of science, progressivism is a religion, and progressives are on a righteous crusade to convert the unenlightened and punish the heretics. If they must burn the heretics to save them, so be it.

    Ideas and beliefs that do not have a firm philosophical basis cannot withstand the winds of change. Everything changes. Decay provides the fertile soil for regrowth. Such is life.

  • Drew Link

    OK, Tasty, you gave me the proverbial “spit take” moment. You need a new street…….

    I think Brooks was capitulating.

    And on your last comment, Tasty, you couldn’t have said it better. We have a doctor here who used to love to talk about cults. Cults? Progressives.

    I think I have been banned, again, at OTB. I dared to observe with the tender and useless Dr Taylor, that his claim that all current vitriolic discourse was a product of the Trump ERA. I mean, seriously? That’s an observation of a 15 year old child. No sense of history. Rank partisanship.

  • Drew Link

    So. Out of intellectual honesty, and at the risk of exposing myself, I must say that my comment to Taylor was not banned. Maybe even an apology is in order.

    But what I won’t back off of is the notion that nasty political rhetoric is a product of the Trump era. Taylor’s assertion. My god people, look at history.

  • steve Link

    Over reaction. Trump won by about 3.5%. As noted above a small change means he would have lost. The margins in the popular vote were larger for Biden and Obama. What you saw, as I noted before, is that people held the inflation immigration issues against Harris, coupled with a general anti-incumbent bias that has developed. Every candidate claims they are an outsider. He may be a disruptor but he is not much of an accomplisher. His tax cuts and cuts in regulations did not lead to a surge in economic growth and we did not see manufacturing come back to the US.

    He may have some opportunities if he has both houses of Congress but other than tax cuts and performative actions regarding energy and immigration I dont expect much in terms of legislation, mostly executive actions. Will be fun as I get to see you and Drew explain why his doing things like cutting the CHIPS Act funding will help or how tax cuts without spending cuts is going to make our debt better. Guess we can also expect more drama as we have high turnover and scandals in his inner circle, like last time.

    Also, I guess I should note that it has been those on the left that have been concerned about inequality in income for a long time. Hard to see this new concern as more than trolling people for votes. Time will tell.

    Steve

  • steve Link

    Oops, I forgot the anti-trans stuff. The days before the election the ads were heavily tilted towards anti-trans stuff. Trans is icky is still a majority view.

    Steve

  • Larry Link

    Trump is not even in office yet, lets see how things turn out in a few months, then we will understand what has happened more clearly! We just may actually understand and realize the true results of this election.

    Best

  • bob sykes Link

    While I agree that transgenderism is a very big issue for most normal people, I think the important, and universally ignored, issue is Palestine. Harris and Walz are pro-Palestinian, whereas Trump is a staunch Zionist. Jewish leaders like Schumer and the AIPAC are much happier with a Trump presidency than a Harris presidency. So, there was no motive steal this election.

    Trump will likely try to wind down the war in Ukraine, but at this point he will have to submit to Russian demands. How that can be sugar-coated is a mystery. Trump is facing an even worse defeat in Europe than Biden suffered in Afghanistan.

    Trump will give Netanyahu a free hand in Palestine and in Iran. A very large-scale Middle Eastern war is probable, which likely would spill over to a world war.

    Trump will also take a hard line towards trade with China, and I expect to see many more sanctions on China. This will strengthen China and BRICS and weaken us further.

    I voted for Trump, because Harris/Walz were not only incompetent and dishonest, but actually Biblically evil. But I expect another failed Trump presidency. I doubt being Vice President the next four years will be a benefit to Vance’s future in politics.

  • steve, I’m curious about how you define “anti-trans”? My view is that transgender individuals should not be discriminated against. WRT sporting activities one of two things should happen either:
    1. Explicitly male or female sports should be eliminated or
    2. Biological males should not be allowed to compete in explicitly female sporting activities.
    Take your pick. Minors should not receive surgical or pharmaceutical interventions to slow puberty, make them appear to be a sex different than their biological sex, etc. The empirical evidence appears to be against all of those. European countries that once allowed (even pioneered) those interventions have ceased.

    I presume that by your standards those are anti-trans positions. That’s why I want to know what your definition is.

  • steve Link

    I dont think trans people should participate in sports so I dont really have much problem with that position. The issue is that the ads were not rational arguments explaining why they should not but were emotion driven ads that were aimed to make trans people look bad.

    Last I looked I dont think all of the European countries changed. I also dont think Europe is right about everything. I would prefer that it be an individual decision based upon the desires of the pt and the opinions of the medical staff. Not really sure why we need to have government involved. Current European standards at link. While I think they are correct that maybe things went too far too fast, we always have fads in medicine, teens can still get puberty blockers pretty much everywhere except Russia.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/06/us-europe-transgender-care-00119106

    Steve

  • steve Link

    Got interrupted. I would just add that while you take right wing critics at their word on stuff like gender care in the EU, which is much different than you have been told, I think that you have to look at the actual numbers. For example, someone ran the numbers and in all of Michigan there were only 2 trans kids in high school sports. Is that enough of an issue to move votes? It is only because eit reinforces trans is icky.

    How about paying for gender surgery in prison? I dont think that’s a good idea either. When you run the numbers they could only find 2 times where this happened. (Prisons actually try real hard to avoid paying for any medical care.) With all of the things affecting our budget an expense that is probably less than the cost of upgrading Ben Carson’s office should be decisive? Nah.

    Steve

  • PD Shaw Link

    Bill Clinton would have responded with broad support for transgender people being entitled to the same dignity and understanding as all Americans, particularly our children, are due. We also must be cognizant of legitimate concerns about girls in sports — schools and communities should amicably address these difficult issues with the care and attention they deserve. (Roughly something like that)

    AFAIK Harris said nothing, which could be for a number of reason: (1) She’s not a good politician; (2) she’s a better politician than observed, but she was carrying out a minimalist campaign strategy; (3) she doesn’t believe what I wrote and won’t say it; (4) she’s not certain what she believes and won’t weigh in prematurely; (5) she’s afraid of alienating friends and the twitterati that would condemn her Sister Souljahing.

  • Last I looked I dont think all of the European countries changed. I also dont think Europe is right about everything.

    I only raised the point to illustrate that we are bucking the trend among developed countries.

    I would prefer that it be an individual decision based upon the desires of the pt and the opinions of the medical staff. Not really sure why we need to have government involved.

    Minors are incapable of giving informed consent especially in the context of activist healthcare practitioners. Note: not all practitioners are activists on this subject but some are.

    Current European standards at link. While I think they are correct that maybe things went too far too fast, we always have fads in medicine, teens can still get puberty blockers pretty much everywhere except Russia.

    which is a reason that impairs informed consent.

  • Drew Link

    The issue is that the ads were not rational arguments explaining why they should not but were emotion driven ads that were aimed to make trans people look bad.”

    And in what alternative universe has this not been the case in a political campaign? We agree that it is unfortunate, but don’t get all Bill Buckley Firing Line academic on us when Trump has been called Putin’s Manchurian Candidate, literally Hitler, a fascist, the end of democracy, subjected to rank lawfare, a latent dementia patient etc etc etc.

    Clean up your own house. You beclown yourself with your selective outrage.

  • jan Link

    For starters, the House still hasn’t been decided. If it stays Republican then there will be a chance of some budgetary progress being made etc. If the Dems win, they will devote energies to sabotaging any sane/sensible progress on the horizon, trying instead to impeach Trump for more nonsense. Already progressives are organizing their resistance groups, women taking selfies crying about fantasized uglies, and the dem-enabled-media hysterical, accusing half the country of mirroring every tyrant whoever dominated history books.

    I personally think “hyperbolic fatigue” has settled in much of the country. The constant wailing about actions, comments, personality traits of Trump, which have been debunked or were not evidenced in his first term, have made many weary of tuning into these diatribes. Independent media, substack reading, streaming news from non alphabet network/cable news has provided a more well-balanced, complete view of both domestic and foreign issues. Just the make-up of the new Trump administration – with a mix of bipartisan participants – is refreshing and encouraging. Only three days have passed since the election was determined, and already there are meetings planned between Milieu and Trump, Zelensky and Putin have indicated a desire to resolve the war, there are rumblings of ME peace in the news, and a parade of migrants heading here has broken up after hearing about Biden/Harris’s defeat. And yet, still the progressive left rants and raves uncontrollably. Maybe their distress is more about losing power than about any real loss of democracy for the country. In fact what Trump’s agenda infers is that more opportunity for all is ahead of us, along with a diminishment of identity politics that has populated the dems campaign techniques, dividing us into groups rather than a working together as a “whole.”

  • Steve Link

    Dave- Trump was calling people on the left vermin, marxists, communists, etc. Not just his proxies. There will always be some on the left and the right engaged in name calling but in the case of Trump it comes from the top. to make this even more explicit whileI would prefer that candidates not engage in hyperbole when attacking each other it has been common through history and I dont expect that to change. I am not upset about it at all.

    What is different about the GOP attacks is that they are aimed at specific, faIrly small minority groups like Trans people and Haitians. Those groups make up far less than 1% of the population. Looking back through history villainizing and dehumanizing such small minority groups really has lead to bad outcomes for those people (sometimes) in the past while helping the party doing the attacks to get elected.

    Query- Why did you blindly accept the right wing version of how things changed in Europe? This stuff is actually easy to find.

    Steve

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    A little off-topic but in keeping with the theme on numbers. Its a bit mind boggling that some of the biggest shifts towards Republicans are in urban counties. A 15% shift in New York City, 11% in Chicago, Los Angeles and Orange county by 12%.

    Yet due to how weak Republicans are in these areas — it didn’t affect a single Congressional seat, and I think barely a state legislature or even local election.

    Indeed, i think its surprising the House could be lost by Republicans despite likely winning the House popular vote by 4+% (or even more then 2022).

  • steve Link

    CO- I think there breadth of the change is consistent with what has been reported in the EU elections. It’s a broad rejection of incumbency fueled by inflation and in the case of the US also immigration and the broad cultural unacceptance of trans people. Those latin voters supposedly replacing Republicans are socially conservative.

    Steve

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    I am not arguing it wasn’t a broad shift — it was broad, but it was a medium but not deep shift; some places it was shallow (e.g. Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma), some places it was deep (the urban counties I was talking about).

    The observation is where it was deepest is in those urban counties (10+% shifts in one Presidential cycle is huge); it had no effect on any election outcomes.

    I can’t imagine any changes in governance of those areas without seats changing hands even though it seems voters are signaling they want changes.

  • Drew Link

    Just a note, people. I am in Miami helping my fiance get her house ready for sale. If you don’t know Miami, or haven’t been here in a while this is ground zero for what immigration does.

    This isn’t America. This is Latin America. From relatively minor (heh) things like the crazy driving, to the fact that you can go into most retail establishments and they don’t speak English. And they look at you like you are the problem.

    Anyway, this is my real point. Anyone who doesn’t understand that the people who have immigrated here are socially conservative, and Trump supporters, is sorely misguided.

    The number of red hats, Trump flags on cars, and house signs is flabbergasting. And remember, this is Miami-Dade county. (It rivals No Georgia) The penetration of hispanic voters by Trump should have taken no one by surprise. Its very, very real. What the hell are Dem operatives thinking?

    I really don’t know what steves obsession with trannies is. I personally couldn’t care less what an adult does, but it has become an in your face issue, complete with people advocating for mutilating surgeries for minors. That is a working definition of evil.

    I go to LA Fitness regularly. Mostly hispanic crowd. You should see the tatoos. And the tee shirts. A popular one is “Alpha as Fucx”

    How do you think they feel about the trannies in schools trend? And how they vote? This ain’t rocket science. Observe the world you live in.

  • jan Link

    Observe the world you live in.

    That’s the problem because the “world we live in” seems starkly upside down. All the demonic-like descriptions slung at an impendingTrump presidency seem more a projection of what occurred under the Biden administration, not under Trump’s 1st term. Starting in 2021 there have been unadulterated censorship attacks and targeted cancellations of people on social media platforms, especially those dealing with alternative messaging about the efficacy/toxicity of the COVID vaccines or the J6 single day protest. Lawfare assaults on lawyers or associates defending Trump, resulted in a myriad of what appeared to be politically-motivated indictments, bankruptcy, or threatened imprisonment. The media obsession colored anything “Trump” as bad, rendering 90% + of their coverage of him as negative. In contrast the Biden Family’s dalliance with millions of dollars of questionable monies, the formation of mysterious LLCs, linked to China, Ukraine, Russia, Romania seemed of no investigative interest to the press. Neither did the Hunter laptop, first claimed as Russian misinformation, by a slew of former intelligence officials, and then after the 2020 election admitted to be a true documentation of Hunter’s own acts. The ruthlessness of the past four years, where the Biden administration did everything they could to destroy Trump and his allies businesses, reputations, and lives is beyond the pale. And, now these same people are reversing course, planting all their own prior deviousness in inflammatory rhetoric accusing Trump of anticipated behavior mirroring what they have already done to him.

    What Trump has emphasized in this second term are goals to grow the economy, bring manufacturing back to the U.S., decentralize government, reduce regulatory strangulation, creating opportunity for all segments of society, not just for corporate giants, the very rich, and government workers. Like RFK Jr said, the current democrat party has 70% of the wealth, while the Republican Party has 30%, which is why the parties now represent a different set of demographics than they used to years ago. This was the appeal Trump had to the working blue, middle, minority classes, this past election, that he was on their side, and proved as much during his first term in office, while the Dems seem only interested in self-empowerment, cheap lip service, and unrelenting demagoguery.

  • Zachriel Link

    Trump is a sower of chaos, not fascism.

    Those are not exclusive categories. Incipient fascism is intrinsically disruptive and uses chaos to undermine the existing order. It destroys the existing order and blames the problems that result on the existing order. Furthermore, fascism points to the “enemy within” as an impediment to national greatness. Of course, lies underlie it all.

    Dave Schuler: I don’t believe I’ll live long enough to see it die out; I doubt it will ever die out.

    If you mean progressives, which are people who believe in government solutions to social problems. Why would it die out? Progressive solutions, from social security to civil rights legislation have been largely positive.

    steve: Over reaction. Trump won by about 3.5%

    That’s right. It all depends on whether Trump can moderate his policies or will go headlong into Trumpism, in other words, what he said: Build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it.

    steve: Trans is icky is still a majority view.

    Trans represent only a tiny sliver of society. Some people are up in arms but most probably don’t even know anyone trans.

    Dave Schuler: Biological males should not be allowed to compete in explicitly female sporting activities.

    Biological male/female is not a strict dichotomy. You could go with y-chromosome instead.

    Dave Schuler: Minors are incapable of giving informed consent especially in the context of activist healthcare practitioners.

    When it comes to medical care, parents make the decisions (or right-wing Republicans, as the case may be).

    Drew: Trump has been called Putin’s Manchurian Candidate, literally Hitler, a fascist, the end of democracy, subjected to rank lawfare, a latent dementia patient etc etc etc.

    Most of that has a semblance of truth (other than literally Hitler).

    steve: Looking back through history villainizing and dehumanizing such small minority groups really has lead to bad outcomes for those people (sometimes) in the past while helping the party doing the attacks to get elected.

    That’s right.

    Drew: I really don’t know what steves obsession with trannies is.

    That would be Republicans, who made it a centerpiece of the campaign.

    jan: Starting in 2021 there have been unadulterated censorship attacks and targeted cancellations of people on social media platforms, especially those dealing with alternative messaging about the efficacy/toxicity of the COVID vaccines or the J6 single day protest.

    Advertisers didn’t want to be associated with false information during the pandemic or be associated with J6 violence. It’s not new. Newspapers during WWII, for instance, tended to avoid taking positions that would undermine the war effort, and the White House would use the bully pulpit to call out those that did.

    jan: The media obsession colored anything “Trump” as bad …

    How dare they report what Trump said as if his words mean anything. “They’re eating the dogs. They’re eating the cats.”

    jan: creating opportunity for all segments of society, not just for corporate giants, the very rich, and government workers.

    Hahaha. What you mean is he will cut taxes for the rich like he did last time.

    jan: Like RFK Jr said, the current democrat party has 70% of the wealth, while the Republican Party has 30%

    Think the claim refers to GDP. Blue areas are generally much more productive than red areas.

  • When it comes to medical care, parents make the decisions (or right-wing Republicans, as the case may be).

    There is great opposition among activists even to notifying parents of their children’s identification as trans and in some states it is blocked and parental consent is not required.

  • Progressive solutions, from social security to civil rights legislation have been largely positive.

    That statement is only true if you ignore the failures of “progressive solutions” of which there have been many. Just as one example forced sterilization of blacks or the developmentally delayed was considered a “progressive solution” in its day.

  • Zachriel Link

    Dave Schuler: There is great opposition among activists even to notifying parents of their children’s identification as trans and in some states it is blocked and parental consent is not required.

    That only refers to social transitioning, not medical transitioning (“activist healthcare practitioners”).

    Dave Schuler: That statement is only true if you ignore the failures of “progressive solutions” of which there have been many.

    Of course there have been failures. Everything fails: science, technology, government, conservatism, progressivism, religion, education, economics, even family. Having failures doesn’t mean progressivism is going to disappear. Government still has an important role in responding to social problems. (Note that civil rights legislation occurred after the sterilization disasters.)

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