I’ve been thinking about starting a recurring feature, “Ironic Juxtapositions of the Day”. For example, on Saturday one of the news aggregators that try to keep me informed had these two
“Immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than U.S.-born Americans, studies find”
and
which I found pretty ironic. BTW the flurry of corrective articles like the first one represent what I would call a “category error”. At least to me the question is not whether migrants commit fewer or less felonies than native-born citizens but whether migrants who have been convicted of violent felonies in their countries of origin continue to commit them when they come here. I suspect the answer is “yes” but determining whether that’s the case is actually quite difficult.
IMO we should be deporting non-citizens who have been convicted of violent felonies in their countries of origin who commit violent felonies here without any disagreement about it but that does not presently appear to be the case.
Everything I have read suggests that violent crime is legally a good reason/cause for deportation for both legal and illegal immigrants. Do we have reliable numbers on how often this does and does not happen?
Steve
Try, if you can, to pin down his definition of an “immigrant”.
Does that include got away’s?
Does it include alien residents with a court date to determine their status?
Doubt it.
“Do we have reliable numbers on how often this does and does not happen? ”
My understanding is that we don’t really know because immigration status is not typically collected in crime reporting, and in “sanctuary” jurisdictions, it is specifically forbidden to collect it.
It’s another area where uniform crime reporting data collection would be useful for policy analysis.
Andy’s remarks are what I would have responded. In addition when pictures are published of migrants apprehended for serious felonies, e.g. the murder of the young nursing student recently, those pictures frequently depict what are clearly prison tattoos. The same appeared to be true of some of the migrants beating the NYC police officer.
At the very least that suggests that some criminals are entering the country.
It’s illegal in Illinois for law enforcement officers to report immigration status to the feds. Illinois does permit law enforcement to share fingerprints of people arrested or booked into custody with the FBI, and the FBI forwards this information to DHS to evaluate with its immigration database. Based upon this review, DHS will issue a detainer to local law enforcement which serves to ask to be notified before release so that they can seek to detain the individual. It’s illegal for local law enforcement in Illinois to cooperate with DHS on retainers, or do anything to help enforce immigration laws.
So DHS knows how many illegals have committed crimes, and it knows how many detainers it has issued for crimes that Congress mandated removal procedures. However, the Biden administration modified the process in at least three ways: it redefined and limited the covered offenses, it required consideration of mitigating circumstances, and created a layer of administrative review for repealing detainers. This resulted in more criminals not being picked up or being released from detention with an ankle monitor that DHS has no ability to enforce in sanctuaries.
DHS does not necessarily have information on “gotaways” or those who completely eluded detection. At this point we know there to have been around 3 million gotaways since the Biden Administration took office plus some unknown number of individuals who completely eluded detection.
That’s a pretty substantial pool of possible felons. The total number of people presently incarcerated in the U. S. is around 1.2 million.
And what would motivate an undocumented alien to appear for his court date when out on bond?
Good citizenship?
Another thing, of those 1.2 million, 15%
are over 55 and practically lifers, not recent immigrants.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2023/08/02/aging/