There Are Other Democrats

The editors of the New York Times and USA Today have both come out today with editorials critical of Hillary Clinton, with different levels of severity.

NYT:

So far, no security breaches have been reported; a separate F.B.I. investigation is looking into that. But above and beyond security questions, the inspector general’s report is certain to fuel doubts about Mrs. Clinton’s trustworthiness, lately measured as a significant problem for her in public polls.

Across the years of the Clintons’ ascendancy, the public has seen that Mrs. Clinton can be fiercely protective of her role and prerogatives — at times grudging in admitting error and, during Bill Clinton’s presidency, blaming a “vast right-wing conspiracy” for allegations against her and her husband that began early in his tenure and continued on through the impeachment scandal. (The right wing was definitely on his case, but hardly alone in its doubts about Mr. Clinton’s personal conduct.)

This defensive posture seems at play in the email controversy, as well as her refusal, for that matter, to release the lucrative speeches she made to Wall Street audiences. The reflex she is revealing again now — to hunker down when challenged — is likely to make her seem less personable to many voters, and it will surely inflame critics’ charges of an underlying arrogance.

USAT:

If Clinton wants to become the president of the United States, she needs to explain how she could make such a reckless decision. She had a chance to answer questions when the Obama administration-appointed inspector general contacted her about the investigation that was released last week. Among five recent secretaries of State, only Clinton refused.

While Clinton is under potential criminal investigation by the FBI for the mishandling of classified material sent through her email, remaining silent might be in her best interests and it is certainly her right. But to be president, she is going to have to convince voters that she can put the national security of the United States above her own short-term self-interest.

From both of these it’s pretty clear that editors don’t speak federal bureaucratese. Let me translate from the State Department Inspector General’s report:

  1. He thinks it’s likely that she committed several crimes.
  2. Sec. Clinton and her campaign have lied.

There have been rumors floating around (and not just from partisan Republicans) that the FBI is preparing to ask a grand jury to consider whether criminal charges should be filed. Expect these to multiply unless and until the FBI actually releases its report.

While the Clintons, the Clinton campaign, and various loyalists and apparatchiks continue to circle the wagons, it seems timely to point out that there are other Democrats. And quite a number of them would have been running for president if Hillary Clinton hadn’t been sucking all of the air out of the room.

How about thinking about some? Preferably some who aren’t liars, serial bunglers, and 70 years old.

18 comments… add one
  • Well I guess Biden is out due both to his age and the “serial bungler” thing.

    Beyond the Veep, a lot of people will name Elizabeth Warren but at 66 years of age she’s got the same age issue as well as having a resume as thin as Obama’s when it comes to actual government experience.

    So, off the top of my head that leaves:

    Andrew Cuomo, who is dealing with ethics issues of his own in Albany

    Deval Patrick, because of course a Democrat from Massachusetts is the answer!

    Kristen Gillibrand, junior Senator from New York who is frequently listed as a potential POTUS candidate in the future

    Martin O’Malley, after all he couldn’t do any worse in a race without Hillary than the 1% he was getting in the polls; and,

    Cory Booker, because it would be great to have a POTUS who can shovel people’s driveways and deliver diapers when it snows.

    That’s all that comes to mind right now 🙂

  • The purge of down ticket Democrats over the last few years and the Senate being an octogenarians’ club doesn’t help. A lot of the people I can think of are too darned old, e.g. Jim Webb and Shirley Franklin.

  • gray shambler Link

    Democrats, huh? Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine waters. Al Sharpton, Al Franken, you see the problem. More interesting to me though, is what could Mrs Clinton have said to a group of banking executives, over and over again, that would make them want to pay her $20,000 per speech? Something they didn’t already know about their business? Stink, Stink, Stink.

  • As a start there’s every sitting Democratic senator who’s under 70. There’s at least a half dozen of ’em and some of them aren’t bad as politicians go.

    Then there are sitting governors who are under 70 and big city mayors. Then Fortune 500 CEOs who are under 70.

    As I say, there are in fact other Democrats.

  • If the entire Democratic Party had not been operating under the assumption that HRC would be running in 2016, there would be others. They would have been laying the groundwork for a run since before the 2012 campaign and they’d be more nationally known.

    Some possibilities from the Senate outside those I listed include Jeff Merkely from Oregon, Sherrod Brown from Ohio, and Russ Feingold (although losing his re-election bid in 2010 would have hurt Presidential prospects).

  • Guarneri Link

    “Something they didn’t already know about their business?”

    That’s precisely what happened, gray, and why she doesn’t want it out there. They learned she will support their business as is.

  • Zachriel Link

    Dave Schuler: Let me translate from the State Department Inspector General’s report: He thinks it’s likely that she committed several crimes. Sec. Clinton and her campaign have lied.

    Sure. She can serve time in prison for that when she finishes serving her time for Whitewater, the Vince Foster murder, and her treason in Benghazi.

  • PD Shaw Link

    Sure, Zachriel, innocent once, always innocent. Maybe not accurate, but easy to remember.

  • Guarneri Link

    How about my good buddy Rahm? Doin’ a fine job. Anyone hear his interview with Bill Cameron. What a dick.

    Seriously, the mayor of Pittsburgh at least has a functioning big city to lean on.

    I hear Thomas Jefferson wasn’t available……..

  • Andy Link

    I don’t think there will be enough to indict Clinton. Her aides, probably enough to prosecute a couple of them. Obama will pardon them after the election. I think it’s too late for anyone else. Clinton is an anchor around Democrats necks and if she goes down, so will the ship.

  • steve Link

    Interesting that being able to read the Clinton speeches to the bankers is more important than seeing Trump’s actual tax returns. If FBI agents want to quit, let them quit.

    Steve

  • Obama will pardon them after the election.

    What from his past behavior leads you to believe he’d do that?

    I certainly hope not. I think that things are on edge as much as I’ve seen in my lifetime and that would just about be enough to set things off.

  • walt moffett Link

    There are other Republicans out there too. However, on one side we have if thats what the voters want, let them have both barrels while on the other side the fix has been since Moynihan’s endorsement.

    Indictment? To get before a Grand Jury you need a sign off from on high in this case (read the US Attorney’s manual at the DOJ reading room). Most likely, members of the Outer Inner circle who proposed the mail system will throw themselves on the pikes while Clinton plays the Woman Done Wrong by nefarious men and others disappear while on moral revolution tours arranged by the Obama Foundation. If it drags on past election, many pixels will be spilled about whether a Prseidnt-elect/sitting President can be tried anywhere but in the Senate on a House Indictment, etc.

  • Guarneri Link

    I see no one has been able to come up with a real list of potentials, congressional, cabinet, governor or mayoral. Joe Biden use to be the butt of dark humor jokes about being Obamas best assassination insurance.

    Maybe she was the best option.

  • Ben Wolf Link

    It’s an interesting idea but you’ve got the problem of Sanders’ voters to consider. How many of them won’t vote if they see their preferred candidate being objectively screwed by a party process they consider rigged?

    Also, I think it’s likely Sanders would still have outperformed other challengers, leaving us in the same situation.

  • CStanley Link

    A little late, isn’t it?

  • Zachriel Link

    PD Shaw: Zachriel, innocent once, always innocent. Maybe not accurate, but easy to remember.

    The problem is the low signal-to-noise ratio. Sure, she could be guilty this time, but it looks like the usual chatter. Consider that four years of birther nonsense pervaded the media, and that the presumptive Republican nominee is a birther. And so it goes.

  • Andy Link

    “What from his past behavior leads you to believe he’d do that?”

    Clearly it’s a guess and Obama and the Clintons are not friends, but I think it will be justified by looking at the big picture, particularly if Hillary wins.

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