Don’t waste your breath arguing that George Floyd is not a proper object of pity or outrage. Reasoned arguments won’t make a bit of difference. Horst Wessel or Che Guevara weren’t good objects for martyrs, either. All that was important was the power of the propaganda. My dad heard the “Horst Wessel Song” so frequently in his European travels that he could still sing it from memory 30 years later and fully 20 years after the cause for which it was the anthem had been thoroughly discredited. Alberto Korda’s photo of Che Guevara is still the most famous photograph in the world, still adorning many T-shirts worn by college students, more than a half century after his death.
Even the causes don’t matter much—it’s the propaganda. The more it’s repeated and the more effective it is to begin with, the greater and more pervasive its effects. I think that Martin Gurri is probably right. Were the objectives of the protesters really turned into actionable programs, they would probably evaporate. It would become obvious just how vapid they are.
The causes will change into corporations or rackets or both in due course.
To the list you can add Tupac Shakur. I still see posters of him in small children’s walls on the res’. I ask, who’s that? Tupac they say. Too Pack?. No. Tupac.
Wikipedia lists his death as an
assassination. That’s how highly they regard his work.
‘Wikipedia lists (Tupac Shakur’s) death as an assassination. That’s how highly they regard his work.’
I guess you can call a gangland murder an assassination if one wants. And I can call a potato a fruit too.
As for dear Che, here’s a nice little Pulitzer price-winning photo from 1960 that exhibited what Guevara was good at doing:
https://twitter.com/timburchett/status/1303145197405122560/photo/1
“All that was important was the power of the propaganda.”
I guess suggesting that the police should not act as judge, jury and executioner counts as propaganda now. Sad.
“Che Guevara is still the most famous photograph in the world, still adorning many T-shirts worn by college students”
Ever ask one of those students who Che was and what he did? Try it. I have never found one who knew much about him. They do know that it pisses off some old people.
Steve
How about criminals acting as judge, jury and executioner? Make you feel better?
https://www.kfornow.com/mayor-declares-week-of-mourning-in-lincoln-following-herreras-death-additional-charge-of-murder-expected/
So you are saying criminals are the same as the police. Yup, that makes me feel better.
Steve
Reminds me of Germany’s Joscha Fischer, in his first press photo, he was beating a cop during a student riot, later on leader of the Greens, Foreign Minister under Merkel, now retired.
“I guess suggesting that the police should not act as judge, jury and executioner counts as propaganda now.”
What garbage.
“Ever ask one of those students who Che was and what he did? Try it. I have never found one who knew much about him. They do know that it pisses off some old people.”
More garbage. Reminds me of an exchange perhaps 18 mos to 2 years ago. I noted the outrageous behavior of college students attacking free speach. U of Missouri if I recall correctly. Steve dismissed it as the passing fancy of a couple crazy college kids.
Now we have cities on fire. When steve can’t make an argument, or just doesn’t want to hear it………………he minimizes. Count on it.
The people of Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Pittsburgh, Rochester, Kenosha……and others…..might beg to differ.
“criminals are the same as the police”
And the police are the same as the criminals. They have families and they bleed and they die. What the difference is, the police follow procedure, and the P.R.’s follow lust and instinct. If you don’t want to have a police force in your community, say, Philly, put it on the ballot and if you win, live with what you will have, random brutality with no recourse for the victims. A damn good situation if you are young, strong, and have no conscience. What you are dealing with, Steve is situational ethics, if a brutal man who has no sympathy for others finds himself in restraints in police custody, you look at that snapshot and your pity pours out for him. It’s very good that you care, but your vision is myopic and transient and you fall prey to liars and thieves pleading their innocence as all do except the moral man who when caught, lowers his head and repents.
Police who break protocol for any reason should pay with their jobs, but if you want every policeman or woman who is accused of excessive force to be imprisoned, you want anarchy, because no one will want their job.
Here you go, Grey….
Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails
Just call me Lucifer
‘Cause I’m in need of some restraint
So if you meet me
Have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I’ll lay your soul to waste, mm yeah
Wait for the Mick Taylor solo now…..
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sympathy+for+the+devil+get+yer+ya-ya%27s+out&docid=608042261182810693&mid=008D56FF27DB5084346F008D56FF27DB5084346F&view=detail&FORM=VIRE