You must surely know by now that President Donald Trump has been indicted on at least seven counts related to his retention of classified documents.
I do not rejoice in it. It does not horrify me. It does not surprise me.
We don’t know how this will unfold. Depending on events, it is possible that the case may end up before the Supreme Court.
We don’t know what its political impact will be. It may actually increase the likelihood that President Trump becomes the Republican Party candidate in 2024. Or it may eliminate that possibility. We just don’t know.
I am surprised the FBI/DOJ doesn’t just kill him. He obviously scares the bejabbers out of them. And it’s not like they haven’t murdered politicians and civilians before. JFK. RFK. MLK. Ruby Ridge. Waco. …
And what are they going to do with RFK, Jr.? He’s out to avenge his father and uncle.
PS. If you have the time, listen to his announcement of his candidacy. It’s almost 2 hours long. He spoke ad-lib, but he has the magic.
If you don’t want to do that, watch his father’s speech in Indianapolis on the occasion of King’s death in 1968. It’s only 5 minutes, but it’s ad-libbed.
Then weep with me over what might have been.
May God damn the whole DOJ/FBI and the whole Deep State and their families to eternal Hell.
IANAL, and there is a lot of info we don’t know, but based on the facts available, this seems to be a pretty open-and-shut case.
Contra Bob, it’s one thing to take and keep classified documents after leaving the WH – that is something Biden, Pence, and Clinton did. It’s quite another to refuse to return them, not cooperate, and lie (or have your lawyer lie) about them. That’s just stupid. If Trump had played it like Biden, Pence, and Clinton did, he would have been in the clear legally.
Andy: it’s one thing to take and keep classified documents after leaving the WH – that is something Biden, Pence, and Clinton did.
Just to clarify: There is no evidence of intention by Biden or Pence. That’s a key difference under the law. Also, classification is irrelevant to the Espionage Act, which refers to information relating to the national defense.
Very big step for our democracy, very important one, lets see how our country works through this. Justice, do we have it or not? I bet we all knew this time was coming, so now we get to practice what we preach.
“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. That one may smile and smile and be a villain. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in our philosophy.”
“Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion is safe.”
– Edmund Burke
“Without justice, courage is weak.”
– Benjamin Franklin
“Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph.”
– Haile Selassie
Etc…
I think this cements his nomination. I think it goes to SCOTUS and no matter the facts of the case they will protect him.
Steve
‘”Contra Bob, it’s one thing to take and keep classified documents after leaving the WH – that is something Biden, Pence, and Clinton did.”
Um. And another Clinton bleach bitted, lied, hammer smashed………”but no reasonable prosecutor.”
Spare us the faux high minded pontification bullshit, people. Its a political prosecution pure and simple.
Meanwhile, Joe Bidens son, daughters in law and grandchildren received material cash payments through a convoluted shell company scheme for vital consulting and geopolitical insights they provided Romania and Ukraine. But Joe wasn’t involved. Right. Whats the term I’m looking for.
Oh, I believe the term is “money laundering.”
https://dersh.substack.com/p/the-most-dangerous-indictment-in?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=373575&post_id=127130196&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
Drew: And another Clinton bleach bitted, lied, hammer smashed………â€but no reasonable prosecutor.â€
Clinton used the State Department’s secure intranet extensively for classified information. The evidence was that Clinton and her staff were sloppy, but they had no intention of transmitting classified information through email. Without evidence of intent, no reasonable prosecutor would have brought charges.
“For the first time in American history, the leading candidate to defeat the incumbent president has been indicted by the incumbent’s Justice Department.”
Sure. That’s what happens when the “leading candidate” is caught breaking the law—allegedly.
“Republicans who will certainly retaliate when they regain control of the criminal charging process.”
Quite posssibly, but you can’t have the rule of law if you have evidence of criminal wrongdoing but don’t prosecute them because they are politically powerful.
“And yet, what information we do have suggests a weak case that would never have been brought if it wasn’t being brought against Donald Trump.”
There’s an audio recording of ex-president Trump saying he has a document which is still classified and containing information relating to the national defense. On its face, that violates the Presidential Records Act, the Classified Information Procedures Act, and the Espionage Act. When combined with the letter from his attorney asserting all classified and government documents had been surrendered, probable cause that the assertion was false, a search warrant finding additional classified and government documents, along with the constant lies and threats, it makes for a very substantial case. And that’s just what is in the public domain. One of the charges is conspiracy, meaning there are others involved.
I am surprised the FBI/DOJ doesn’t just kill him. He obviously scares the bejabbers out of them.
When the government tries so hard to eliminate the chances of a high-ranking leader from running for office, while ignoring more egregious illegal behavior of the opposition party, it’s obvious prejudice and under-handed justice is running wild through the country. Here you have Joe Biden, the current sitting president, ladened with a history of hoarding classified docs from as far back as 1974, having whistleblower evidence, kept from the public by the FBI since 2017, showing bribes were in play from Ukraines Burisma of 5 million each to Biden and son Hunter, and on the same day that was revealed Trump was indicted with these controversial charges. This is just crazy wrong!
No doubt will be other cases made too. Nothing like piling on to to show who is in charge.
Being guilty of what you’re accused of doing makes it hard to claim malicious prosecution. And although selective prosecution violates a legal dictum it’s not actually against the and fairly easy to weasel out of.
Excerpted from the substack of Don Surber:
Simon Ateba, our favorite African reporter, tweeted, “The indictment of Donald Trump, 2024 elections and the law of unintended consequences:
“In ancient Rome, a group of men loyal to the Republic feared that Julius Caesar was going to make his dictatorship permanent and establish a monarchy. In 44 BC, they decided to assassinate him, thereby restoring the Republic.
“In the ensuing chaos and power vacuum, Caesar’s great nephew Octavius quickly rose to the top, assumed power, and permanently ended the Republic by establishing a de facto monarchy. After Caesar’s death, it came out that he had never intended to create a monarchical system. The conspirators brought about precisely what they had tried to stop.
This is a reminder of how great plans can go awry. The establishment republicans and progressive democrats have spent years trying to create havoc, first in Trump’s presidency and now in his bid to seek the presidency again, just to eliminate his presence on the national stage. They have created numerous conspiracies about him, coupled with useless investigations and impeachments. Now it’s all about continuing to smear and then indict him, as they turn a blind eye to the corruption, standing out like a sore thumb, in their own ranks and particularly in the democrat party.
In the midst of Biden’s awful reign, however, our country appears to be slipping away from the very values and tenets it was founded upon. Censorship, police state authoritarian governance, subversion of free speech and parent’s rights, the fracturing of the middle class, a greater wealth disparity between rich and poor, and dividing the country on the basis of color, gender, class taking us back into the dark ages of discrimination – now a reverse discrimination flavor.
Wow. Just wow.
In 1965 Paul Harvey’s “If I were the devil†radio episode was released. It was so provocative and prescient that it has been replayed endlessly ever since. Today I read a similar piece, written in American Thinker, dealing metaphorically with how to commit the perfect coup against a sitting president and their supporters:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/06/how_to_commit_the_perfect_coup_against_a_president_and_his_supporters.html