My guess is the news organizations will not declare any of the swing states until 100 per cent of the vote is counted.
That’s a highly optimistic prediction. I think that some will not be able to resist on at least one “swing state” and once one news organization has the rest will follow suit. I think it will be weeks before some states’ results are certified.
Keep in mind these organizations are in the news business not the patient waiting biz. Getting the scoop is a high value.
No one called MI until 3 days after the election night when all votes came in. Almost no one called PA or WI until 80% of Trump’s acceptance speech was done and it was known Clinton had conceded. Despite the fact I believe it was known for 2 hours beforehand that Clinton had no realistic possibility of winning either state.
News organizations had gotten more conservative about calling elections since 2000; and will be very cautious given the unprecedented use of VBM.
Agree with 0%. I can see one giving in to the temptation but not both.
Slightly OT but I just came home from voting. Contra the predictions made here there were not howling mobs of antics and BLM trying to intimidate voters. We are pretty rural so maybe they just dont have cars and couldn’t make it out to us.
From far western Delaware County, PA: Fairly long line where I voted early PM (due to COVID-19 they had consolidated the two voting precincts), had been much longer in the morning. No sign of BLM/ANTIFA. A couple of Trump trucks with flags and don’t-tread-on-me flags circling around the parking lot early on but both were gone by the time I came out and the line was visibly shortening. Peaceful and orderly. Liked the new voting machines with paper fill-in ballots that scan in, feel more confident shenanigans would be harder with them.
I was surprised that the new paper ones worked so well. I had almost no line but wife said the line was an hour long when she voted. I went straight from work and got there at 7:30. Had about 6 people in front of me.
It is close to 0.
My guess is the news organizations will not declare any of the swing states until 100 per cent of the vote is counted.
I believe PA, WI, MI, NV already said they cannot count up all the votes until Thursday or Friday.
There’s a possibility they won’t declare FL, AZ, GA, NC, TX until Wednesday or Thursday.
The eventuality may occur; but it won’t be tonight.
That’s a highly optimistic prediction. I think that some will not be able to resist on at least one “swing state” and once one news organization has the rest will follow suit. I think it will be weeks before some states’ results are certified.
Keep in mind these organizations are in the news business not the patient waiting biz. Getting the scoop is a high value.
I recall 2016 as an example.
No one called MI until 3 days after the election night when all votes came in. Almost no one called PA or WI until 80% of Trump’s acceptance speech was done and it was known Clinton had conceded. Despite the fact I believe it was known for 2 hours beforehand that Clinton had no realistic possibility of winning either state.
News organizations had gotten more conservative about calling elections since 2000; and will be very cautious given the unprecedented use of VBM.
FYI, I saw interviews with both Trump and Biden sounding very cautious about declaring victory.
Along the lines; if there is something to talk to the public about, then we will talk. Trump prefixing everything with “if we win…â€.
Agree with 0%. I can see one giving in to the temptation but not both.
Slightly OT but I just came home from voting. Contra the predictions made here there were not howling mobs of antics and BLM trying to intimidate voters. We are pretty rural so maybe they just dont have cars and couldn’t make it out to us.
Steve
‘Slightly OT but I just came home from voting. ‘
From far western Delaware County, PA: Fairly long line where I voted early PM (due to COVID-19 they had consolidated the two voting precincts), had been much longer in the morning. No sign of BLM/ANTIFA. A couple of Trump trucks with flags and don’t-tread-on-me flags circling around the parking lot early on but both were gone by the time I came out and the line was visibly shortening. Peaceful and orderly. Liked the new voting machines with paper fill-in ballots that scan in, feel more confident shenanigans would be harder with them.
I was surprised that the new paper ones worked so well. I had almost no line but wife said the line was an hour long when she voted. I went straight from work and got there at 7:30. Had about 6 people in front of me.
Steve
I was wrong.
Both candidates made statements that they were on a path to victory while no organization had actually called any of the decisive states.
I am praying hard that the overnight counting leaves a decisive result; otherwise I am worried for the next week.
Based on my experience as an election judge, I went in at about 3:00pm. There was no line. It took me about 10 minutes to vote (dozens of judges).
Trump said he won. Pence and Biden said they thought they were on the path to victory. Seems like a real difference.
Steve