My heart goes out to the people of Lahaina who’ve lost their homes, all of their possessions, and, in many cases, family members to the fires that have swept through their town. We won’t know for a while how great the fatalities were. It will turn out to be something between 1% and 10% of the town’s population. Claire Rush, Beatrice Dupuy and Jennifer Sinco Kelleher report at the Associated Press:
LAHAINA, Hawaii (AP) — As the death toll from a wildfire that razed a historic Maui town climbed to 93, authorities warned that the effort to find and identify the dead was still in its early stages. The blaze is already the deadliest U.S. wildfire in more than a century.
Crews with cadaver dogs have covered just 3% of the search area, Maui Police Chief John Pelletier said Saturday.
“We’ve got an area that we have to contain that is at least 5 square miles, and it is full of our loved ones,†he said, noting that the number of dead is likely to grow and “none of us really know the size of it yet.â€
The scale of the destruction and damage is substantial:
At least 2,200 buildings were damaged or destroyed in West Maui, Green said, nearly all of them residential. Across the island, damage was estimated at close to $6 billion.
To give you some idea the total permanent population of Lahaina is something around 12,000 people, nearly all of them employed in the hospitality sector: groundskeepers and cleaning workers, cooks, waiters and waitresses, etc. Not exactly high-income people.
The article goes on to strike a parallel between the Lahaina fire and the Paradise fire in northern California a couple of years ago. I think the parallel is too many people living in a environment that can’t really support such a population, low housing construction standards and weak regulations, and emergency infrastructure inadequate to the task.
At this point none of our friends or acquaintances who have cadaver dogs have been called into service although I wouldn’t be surprised if some were.
Clearly, such a poor population cannot be expected to bear the costs of this tragedy but I don’t think having the costs fall on poor people on the mainland is just, either. That’s what happens when the federal government spends more than it receives in revenue and borrows the rest. The burden of that falls mainly on the poor.
This disaster was no surprise. They have been warned of it for more than a decade, as reported by Dan Frosch and Jim Carlton at the Wall Street Journal:
Nearly a decade before a wildfire destroyed the coastal Maui town of Lahaina this week, killing at least 89 people, a report by Hawaiian fire researchers warned that the area was at extremely high risk of burning.
Another report, in 2020, tied fires to winds from a passing hurricane—similar to the ones that fanned the Lahaina blaze.
And the state’s electric utility had for years worried about wildfire risk in the area. It even flew drones to monitor conditions.
Yet local authorities said in the aftermath of this week’s devastation that though they knew wildfires were becoming more frequent in Hawaii, they weren’t prepared for one to roar through Lahaina.
IMO it’s pretty clear that the tourism and hospitality sectors need to bear more of the risk of such catastrophes. There are 378 hotels in Lahaina. Poor mainlanders shouldn’t be subsidizing them.
People dont die that often from most fires since they dont move that fast. This one moved very fast driven by the winds. If you waited until it was close you couldn’t outrun it and traffic stopped so you couldn’t drive out. The emergency response agencies had been warning about this but it sounds like people didnt read it and/or they didnt think it applied to this specific fire. They apparently thought they had it under control when they did not.
I think the better analogy is our hurricanes. People ignore evacuation warnings and it works OK until it doesnt and it’s a really bad one. Local authorities should have evacuated earlier. Of course if they did and nothing bad happened no one would pay attention next time.
Steve
10?-15? Years ago Houston issued an evacuation order for a hurricane and those who chose to leave were in worse shape than those who stayed .
Traffic at a standstill on the overburdened freeway, running out of fuel. water, food, and doing the bathroom thing in the median.
Guess I believe Maui’s downfall was disbelief, had never happened, couldn’t happen.
Before I go into rant-mode, losing everything or almost everything you own is a feeling that cannot be described. Pictures and other sentimental items cannot be replaced. (Your evacuation plan needs to include these items.) With that out of the way, …
It is tourists from the shitty areas of the country causing the problem, but even the shitty areas are being overbuilt. It seems like tornados leveling trailer parks are increasing. Because remote work allows people living in shitty areas, it is part of the problem.
We should ban tourism, trailer homes, and remote work. We can all live in big cities. I guess murder and mayhem are better.
To be fair, polluting states and cities should be required to pay for the messes they cause. I am tired of drinking Illinois’ shit water. If an outhouse is good enough for WV backwoods ER Doctors, it is good enough for Chicagoans.
PS: Louisiana is having a homeowners insurance crisis, and neither the US nor Illinois is not part of the solution. Building codes, incentives for insurance companies, and homeowner grants are being funded and mandated by the state.
PSS: Flood insurance does not cover wind damage. If the wind blows off your roof and your house gets water damage, flood insurance does not cover it. Hopefully, you have a wind damage rider on your homeowners insurance.
After Katrina, many people moved to the parishes (counties) north of the city and suburbs. They thought it would be safer. Unfortunately, there are a lot of creeks and rivers which overflow. They thought they were being ‘proactive’, but they are being hit with substantial increases in their flood and homeowners insurance.
PSSS: Water and wind are planet-wide. You can only avoid damage, temporarily. Moving to a planet without a magnetic field will not help because you will be fried, frozen, irradiated, or some combination.
@steve
Evacuating is expensive, and until recently, most shelters would not accept pets. (Now, they are allowed, if crated.) Then, there is work. Many/most jobs are not going to pay people who are not working. Hospitals are another problem.
TB- I largely agree with you, I think. It’s expensive to evacuate. Hard to take your pets or anyone with significant handicaps. Some people cant afford to evacuate every time they call for it. OTOH, if the people making the call on evacuations dont call one they should, people will be harmed. I think it’s pretty easy to point fingers at the people having to make that decision but I dont think most of us would do much better.
Steve
Antiplanner has another take:
https://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=21268#more-21268
He notes that Maui’s land use laws restricted development in order to protect farmland. The result was a very large rise in home prices (7.9 times median income) that priced low-income farm workers out of homes on the island. With the farm workers gone, the farms went bankrupt and were abandoned. Invasive grasses took over that were liable to large scale fires, and it was the grass fires that leveled the town.
I don’t see Antiplanner’s take and mine as being in conflict:
The point I’m addressing is what happened AFTER the farms went bankrupt and there was a tourism boom? Low cost housing for the people working in the hotels flourished but the infrastructure needed for emergency services was not put in place. Choices have implications.
TastyBits:
I largely agree with you, too, although I would phrase it a bit differently. I think that Chicagoans need to take care of their own mess. My approach to “banning tourism” is to make it more expensive.
Also, the early warning systems either didn’t work or weren’t used. The warning sirens never fired off, and the text and phone message system only warned of the possibility of fires and high winds and reportedly nothing once the fire got started.
Here in Colorado, we had a huge wind-driven fire in late 2021 that destroyed about 1,110 homes, killed two people, and caused at least $2 billion in damage. The cause was collectively a power line and a trash fire that had been supervised by the fire department days earlier. The winds uncovered that trash fire heated the embers, and sparks hit nearby grass.
People could escape because this was a suburban neighborhood with many routes to get away. Looking at the map of Laihna, it’s like a lot of coastal communities with most development along a single road parallel to the ocean which likely made it harder to escape.
That’s why I say it was an infrastructure failure.
But FEMA’S on the way, right?
The way this guy describes it, it sounds like a death trap. I wouldn’t be surprised if the total number of deaths is in the hundreds.
https://youtu.be/qsSngwrz0VI
“Of course if they did and nothing bad happened no one would pay attention next time.â€
Steve makes a good point. Weather has been sensationalized for entertainment value and to bolster the notion of global warming. It comes with a cost. Hurricanes were mentioned. If you lived in FL you would know that you could spend your life evacuating if you listened to media.
As for the wild fires. The last time I was in Maui, probably 8-9 years ago, they had similar fires. Moving devastatingly fast. Bridging roads. It was alarming. Police were re-routing people all over the place. There were deaths. Just not as many. And yes, it was blamed on overgrown wild grasses.