The Forces Coming Together

I want to draw your attention to a piece by Margaret Talev at Axios describing a rather small portion of the hurricane that’s coming our way on election day:

A top Democratic data and analytics firm told “Axios on HBO” it’s highly likely that President Trump will appear to have won — potentially in a landslide — on election night, even if he ultimately loses when all the votes are counted.

She’s considered some of the factors but not all. Let’s dig deeper. Here’s a visual depiction of the scenario described:

Let’s throw out a list of of some of the factors involved:

  • Polarization
  • Immediate gratification
  • COVID-19
  • Mail-in voting
  • Declining trust in government and politics
  • Social media
  • The “Dopeler effect”
  • The stakes are high

Now I’ll make a few observations, somewhat scattershot. This is not conspiracy-mongering. I’ve already posted about the “wargaming” of the 2020 election which included prominent members of the Democratic National Committee, in which Biden’s failure to concede led to civil war. Hillary Clinton has also openly advocated that Joe Biden not concede under any circumstances.

We are a society accustomed to quick resolutions of problems—immediate gratification. That’s promoted by, among other factors, television. On scripted TV programs an enormous number of problems are solved over the course of an hour. This is reflected in everything from the demonstrations, protests, and riots that have rocked the country for months to plans for a “Green New Deal”. Even the thorniest problems and those least amenable to any actual solution must be solved now.

COVID-19, a reluctance to stand in line at a polling place and crowd into that space with people you don’t know, along with the likely shortage of election workers, has motivated a call for much more mail-in voting. It is likely that mail-in voting will be more widespread in the 2020 election than in any previous presidential election in our history. That will inevitably lead to delays in the final results of the election.

It hasn’t always been that way. Until the invention of the telegraph the final results of presidential elections were generally not known and certified for months after the election. Until the ratification of the 20th amendment in many states voting in presidential elections went on for nearly a month. Delays in announcing results were expected. That has changed.

The “Dopeler effect” is the principle by which nonsense looks sensible to you if it comes to you very fast. And repeatedly. That’s an underlying principle of television advertising not to mention Sesame Street. It is quite well known that social media can maximize impact with updates on an hourly if not minute-to-minute basis.

Need I flesh out how high the stakes are in this election? Ruth Bader Ginsburg can’t hold on forever. She could drop dead at any moment. Should that happen during a second Trump term, the structure of the Supreme Court will change decisively. That’s just one example.

To sum up, unless Joe biden wins a decisive popular and electoral college victory on election night, he is very unlikely to concede. The determination of results and their certification could go on for weeks for the reasons outlined in the linked article. Biden-Harris will undoubtedly insist on counting votes until they are victorious. Trump-Pence will equally undoubtedly seek to shut down the counting.

We’re sitting on a powder keg.

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  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    Or all the predictions of doom on Nov 3 will be wrong, and the result will be decisive within hours of the polls closing (either for Biden or for Trump).

    Usually when it counts; voters tend to decisively give an answer to avoid political deadlock / chaos.

    It is 2020 but I do believe this Nov won’t be special in that regard.

  • That’s the point of this post. All signs presently suggest that the only way the “results will be decisive” is if Joe Biden has an overwhelming popular and electoral vote advantage on election night and for reasons outlined in the linked article that is unlikely.

  • Grey Shambler Link

    Election night results are going to be a handy tool for those who want to to
    tip the scale, Get just the right number in the right swing states. They should hold results for two weeks, no, the results should not be tabulated until they are all in. Paper and electronic ballots should be sealed until such time as all mail-ins have been received and late comers rejected.

    We need to have most reasonable people believe in the system or all hell breaks loose.
    But we’re not there yet, we get three debates and at some point Biden will be asked if he’s still Chairman Xi’s wingman.

  • TarsTarkas Link

    The Democrats will not accept defeat in the 2020 Presidential election. Period. Even if they are unable to eke out a win via fraud, ballot harvesting, ballot theft or loss, extending the date when ballots can be counted, they will then claim voter suppression, fraud, and Russian help in OMB’s triumph, and refuse to concede. They will fight it in the courts, they will fight it in the streets, they will call upon the military to forcibly remove the fraudulent winner, they will never ever surrender. They’ve invested too much of their political, intellectual, reputational, and emotional capital to back down now.

    Look for a huge number of municipalities and voting districts to have excessively high numbers of votes, in many cases topping 100% of registered voters. Look also for precincts with excessively low vote totals, especially in Republican strongholds in blue states requiring mail-in voting. Every dirty trick can be used will be used, because this time (unlike the last several times) it really is for all the marbles.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    Polls point to Biden having an overwhelming edge in the popular vote and in the electoral college.

    I cannot discount a decisive result for Trump either.

    Basically in my mind — either the polls are right (Biden in a landslide) or they are catastrophically wrong (Trump voters have an extreme non-response rate to polling).

    To get the it is too close to call and having to wait for every vote to be counted; would require the polls to be off just right — that seems doubtful.

  • The polls don’t tell us when or how people will vote and are a weak indicator of how many people will vote. The scenario of which to be concerned is the one laid out: Trump prevails in the popular vote and electoral college on election night, Biden-Harris does not concede and insists on continuing to count until they have the votes to win. We know that’s what the DNC think is going to happen because they’ve said as much albeit indirectly.

    The counter-indication would be if the Democratic leadership is more statesmanlike than they have indicated they are. That seems like a stretch to me. My bet would be they’re less statesmanlike than they claim to be not more.

    I should add that even Democratic pollsters are presently signalling that the polls are likely skewed 5-6 points, i.e. this race is significantly closer than the headline numbers would suggest.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    So here is how I view it.

    Florida is going to use the same system and rules in Nov as 2016. In 2016, they counted 99.5% of election day votes and absentee votes within 6 hours.

    Given Florida status as a bellwether, this is how analysis will go.

    Biden wins Florida — decisive Biden victory
    Trump wins Florida by a bigger margin then 2016 — decisive Trump victory
    Too close to call — Biden victory (given Florida’s status as slightly more R then the tipping point state)
    Trump wins but by a smaller margin then 2016 — prob need to count every vote.

    i.e. based on Florida, most people will quickly know whether to expect or not expect those absentee votes in the Midwest will change the results of the election day vote.

    New Hampshire is another bellwether state where given its small size, will count the results pretty quickly.

  • The way I see it (taking Florida as an example) is that instead of 2.7 million absentee ballots as was the case in 2016 they’ll have twice as many— say, 5.4 million votes by mail. It will take much more than twice as long to process them, maybe days. The reason for that includes that so many of the mail-in votes will be flawed and there will be debates, as in 2000, over which to reject. Lawsuits will ensue which may further delay matters.

    The exit polls and uncertified results will say that Trump won by a substantial margin for the reasons laid out in the article. There will be back and forth charges of misfeasance (fraud, voter suppression).

    Note that Florida also has the distinction of rejecting more absentee ballots as a percentage than any other state.

  • Andy Link

    At this point getting a decisive victory is more important to me than who actually wins. A perfect storm is brewing that has the potential for serious long-term negative effects that will go far beyond what a President can do in a four year term.

  • steve Link

    My guess is that Trump is slightly ahead in electoral votes. The Dems will have an even larger popular vote margin. If there is a contested vote the Supremes decide and we know how that will go. The Dems will just roll over. Should Trump lose, unlikely, expect tons of lawsuits trying to hang up the vote. Suing people is how he made a lot of his money. As the conservatives here always note, they have the guns so expect some civil unrest on their part.

    Steve

  • Drew Link

    The gun has been pre-loaded by the Clintons and DNC etc. When do they recycle the Russian collusion silliness? Social and traditional media will stoke the fire. I’m not sure even a massive Trump victory will stop unrest.

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