I’d like to commend two contrasting columns from the Wall Street Journal to your attention. In the first William Galston gives some shape to the reforms to policing he thinks are needed:
ome of these changes will require federal legislation. And here again the American people have spoken clearly, across party lines. A ban on chokeholds and strangleholds is supported by 68% of all Americans and 52% of Republicans, according to the Kaiser poll. Requiring police to give a verbal warning, when possible, before shooting at a civilian is favored by 89% of Americans, including 83% of Republicans. More than three-quarters of Americans, and more than 6 in 10 Republicans, favor requiring states to release officers’ disciplinary records, a measure that might have saved George Floyd’s life.
Most Americans want to create stronger incentives for police to do the right thing—and to pay a price when they don’t. A remarkable 95% would require police to intervene against, and report, the excessive use of force by fellow officers, a measure that could help tear down the “wall of silence†protecting wrongdoers from scrutiny.
Seventy-three percent of Americans, including 55% of Republicans, favor allowing individuals to sue police officers when they believe excessive force has been used against them. Given this consensus, legislators should be able to reach agreement on the court-created doctrine of qualified immunity, which makes it hard to hold officers accountable when they violate constitutional rights.
Mr. Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has opened the door to this discussion. “We don’t want to deter people from going into law enforcement,†he says. “But we do want to have a sense of accountability. And to the extent that qualified immunity fosters a sense of ‘It’s really not my problem,’ let’s take a look at it.†Although President Trump has reportedly called this issue a “red line,†Senate Republicans shouldn’t allow him to preclude its consideration.
While federal legislation should reform policing, it shouldn’t punish the police, who are trying to do their jobs under difficult conditions. For example, my Brookings Institution colleague Rashawn Ray has proposed housing subsidies to enable more officers to live within the communities they serve. His research also finds that many officers have excessive workloads, forcing them to make high-stakes decisions while not at their best. Reducing workloads and providing housing subsidies would cost money, diminishing the potential savings from transferring some current police functions to mental-health professionals and other social services.
Police feel besieged on all sides. Federal legislators should extend an olive branch by incorporating the Protect and Serve Act into compromise legislation. This bill, which would make targeting law-enforcement officers for violent attack a federal crime, is co-sponsored by Florida Rep. Val Demings, reportedly on the shortlist to be Joe Biden’s running mate.
Whatever may be done at the federal level, much of the burden of rebuilding the relationship between police and African-American communities will fall on states and localities. There’s an obvious place to start, by curtailing the practices that serve as daily irritants and foster a sense of injustice. These include stop-and-frisk, traffic stops for minor infractions such as broken taillights, and arrests for marijuana possession, which already has been decriminalized or legalized in 26 states and the District of Columbia.
Some of those are commonsensical; other fantastical. For example, in many cases subsidies will do nothing to encourage police officers to live in the communities they serve. Here in Chicago, living within the city limits has been required of all city employees including not just police officers but firefighters and teachers as well. The reason that more police officers don’t live in Austin, Garfield Park, or Englewood is not because they can’t afford to. It’s because they don’t want to. They are too dangerous and crime-infested.
In the other column by Jason L. Riley, Mr. Riley presents evidence contradicting the narrative of an epidemic of police violence:
The criminologist Barry Latzer has noted that the homicide rate for black men fell by 18% in the 1940s and another 22% in the 1950s. It’s probably not a coincidence that black poverty declined by 40 percentage points over the same period, and black incomes grew at faster rates that white incomes. Safer neighborhoods help facilitate upward economic mobility, which is something that the “defund the police†crowd might keep in mind.
In the second half of the 20th century, these trends reversed. In the 1960s, violent crime rates doubled, and they continued to increase sharply until the early 1990s, when better policing and more incarceration helped bring crime under control. In his 2007 book, “The Great American Crime Decline,†Franklin Zimring describes violent crime as a “regressive tax whereby the poor pay much more†and observes that “because both victims and offenders are concentrated among the same disadvantaged populations, a major crime decline might produce a double benefit—fewer victims as well as fewer offenders arrested and punished for serious crimes.†Between 1990 and 2016 the overall homicide rate fell by 34%, and among black men it fell by 40%. Had the black homicide rate remained at 1990 levels through that period, tens of thousands of black men wouldn’t be alive today.
In response to the racial hysteria over Floyd’s death, the Democratic House and Republican Senate are hashing out a “policing reform†bill for the president to sign. This is being done out of political expediency, not necessity. There is no epidemic of black suspects dying in police custody, and a few viral videos don’t prove otherwise. Yes, cops sometimes abuse their authority, and firing bad ones can be much too difficult. But states and localities can address those issues more effectively than a one-size-fits-all fix from Washington. Moreover, Republicans should be wary of allowing liberal activists to speak for the public. We’ve known for years that groups like Black Lives Matter are out of step with most blacks, let alone most of the country.
In a 2015 Gallup poll taken after Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, Mo., a majority of black respondents said police treat them fairly, and far more blacks (38%) than whites (18%) said they “want a greater police presence in their local communities.†Another Gallup survey, published last year, asked black and Hispanic residents of low-income neighborhoods about policing and found that these groups “aren’t averse to law enforcement—in fact, they are particularly concerned about crime in their neighborhoods.†Fifty-nine percent of both blacks and Hispanics said that “they would like the police to spend more time in their area than they currently do, making them more likely than white residents (50%) to respond this way.â€
Democrats and Republicans seem to agree that more-uniform data collection among police agencies would be a good thing. They’re right, but it’s no guarantee that the media will report the additional data or put it in context. We have plenty of data right now. Police shootings have fallen precipitously since the 1970s. Upward of 95% of black homicides in the U.S. don’t involve law enforcement. Empirical studies have found no racial bias in police use of deadly force, and that the racial disparities that do exist stem from racial differences in criminal behavior. The problem isn’t a shortage of data but a race-based narrative that is immune to any data that challenge it.
Although the empirical evidence does not support the claim of an epidemic of police violence there is, indeed, an epidemic going on. It’s an epidemic of ignorance, hatred, and destruction which will do more to harm black people than police violence is presently doing.
I’d like to associate myself with every point made here.
“In the second half of the 20th century, these trends reversed. In the 1960s, violent crime rates doubled…” Great Society my ass………..
If Riley simply added at the end of his piece that tax cuts pay for themselves he could have hit most of the talking points the right espouses. Just to pick one out of many of his claims, it is by no means clear that better policing and more incarceration lead to the decrease starting in the 90s. There is better evidence that lead levels affected crime rates. Note that crime rates fell everywhere, not just in the places that claimed to have adopted new and better crime fighting techniques.
Like every right winger he equates killing done by the police with killings done by criminals. Its as if it is a crime to expect police to behave better than criminals.
But mostly, this is a straw man.
” presents evidence contradicting the narrative of an epidemic of police violence”
This ignores police torturing and raping people up until recent times. Yes, the police have gotten better over the last 5-10 years, but it takes much longer to build trust than it does to damage it. We still have acts of torture captured on video and it takes days to have an arrest. Blow a 1.0 on your alcohol test and you get arrested in minutes, or shot to death. So there shouldn’t be any surprise that minorities want more policing. What Riley (quite the Alex Jones clone isn’t he?) omits is that better policing is also wanted. He omits that there are even more studies showing that there are racial disparities in deadly force (and the same studies that support his claim show that more not necessary force is used against blacks) and there are differences in frequency of arrest for the same crimes.
While a part of me wants to agree that the riots and destruction will harm black people more, we also need to acknowledge that we have major riots every 20 years or so, and problems still persist. I am skeptical that things change this time, but maybe since the protests lasted a long time maybe it will change.
Steve
The Jon Burge police torture in Chicago took place 30 years ago and more. I am in no way condoning it. But that was a long time ago.
Matters have gotten better at least in Chicago. A lot better.
So what’s your point? Because we have yet to achieve perfection we should just accept that black neighborhoods will burn once a generation? It’s Chinatown, Jake.
I wonder if Galston (or the polling company) have any idea how many of those things are already in the law. Illinois outlaws choke holds, the warning if feasible concept is from a SCOTUS decisions (Tennessee v. Garner), and civilians have been able to sue police officers for excessive use of force for decades. Illinois FOIA laws require disclosure of disciplinary records, so I don’t know what magical thinking makes people believe this or that change would do this or that, when it might involve no change.
Abner Louima was 20 years ago. But I guess we have near perfection according to you. Occasionally torturing someone to death in public is close enough. Shooting someone while jogging (unarmed) is just fine.
“Matters have gotten better at least in Chicago. A lot better.”
Think Laquan McDonald would agree? Be honest. If it wasn’t on video would anyone have even been arrested?
“So what’s your point?”
You think everything is peachy. The people getting beaten (keep forgetting that part dont you guys) and killed think there is a problem. The people getting stopped while driving for no reason, getting arrested at higher rates than whites for the same crimes think there is a problem. So expect riots again.
Steve
I don’t believe that the Abner Louima case took place in Chicago. There is nothing I might have done, can do, or could do that would have any effect on the conduct of police in New York. I was talking about the much-publicized cases of torture by police in Chicago that took place under Jon Burge from 1972 to 1991. I have consistently voted for candidates that supported reforming the police and voted against candidates complicit in police violence.
You frequently use the term “straw man” but I don’t believe you know what it means. Saying that I think things are “peachy” is a classic straw man argument.
But it was on video and not only was someone arrested he was convicted. That is more evidence that things are better. Would it be even better had it not happened? Yes! But, once again, you are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
In 2020 year-to-date the Chicago Police have killed three people. In 2016 they killed 12, in 2017 13. No year since then has come close. Improvement, no?
You, presumably, think that killing three is too many. Maybe it is. I would need to go case by case but I think you are demanding zero—perfection. If you are not demanding zero, what are you demanding? And that is not a straw man argument.
The argument is that if we have no police, there is no police brutality. We will just have brutality, period.
The same argument was used against mental hospitals, to the same effect. Because of abuses by the staff the inmates were released to be abused by the general public (as well as each other). At least until the politicians found a use for them. Now we have tent cities galore in Blue-run cities.
The same argument is used against America. Because it has not fully lived up to its ideals 100% all the time, it is a irredeemably flawed country and should be burnt to the ground to be replaced by utopia.
The imperfect must be destroyed to make way for the perfect. Which when found to be less than perfect must be destroyed to make way for the perfect. Which when . . .
I’ve noticed an epidemic of police stopping and frisking men with tattoos on their faces.
Could be based on experience, but I think it could easily be explained by pre-judgement on the part of bad cops.
What we need are cops who have no judgement and never learn from their experience.
And that’s the “tattooed lives matter “ argument in a nutshell.
“Saying that I think things are “peachy†is a classic straw man argument.”
Nope, that was countering the absurdity that I expect perfection with a similar extreme.
“If you are not demanding zero, what are you demanding”
I have been pretty explicit, but I will number them to make it easier as i go over them again.
1) Similar numbers of arrests, prosecutions, jail sentences compared with whites. It is well documented that especially for drug crimes blacks and white use and sell drugs at the same rates, but blacks have higher rates of arrests, prosecutions, more likely to go to jail and longer sentences.
2) Stop the beatings. Even by police self reporting metrics unnecessary force is a lot more likely to be used against blacks.
3) Do away with special laws that protect police so that when they engage in abusive behaviors that is hidden or erased from their records when they go to get a job elsewhere.
4) Equal treatment under the law. If a black person commits a crime they are arrested on the spot. A police officer commits a public torture killing and only gets arrested days later after riots.
5) Do away with no knock raids. They disproportionately affect minorities. All too often they go to the wrong address or act on poor information and harm or kill innocent people. (Of course if they shoot an innocent person but they have a shotgun in the closet they can claim that they shot an armed person.(
6) Better weapons training and prosecution for failing to follow that training. The guy who shot Laquan emptied his magazine and shot him 16 times. He shot him when he was walking away and when he was on the ground. Pray and spray is dangerous. If I shoot someone 16 times while defending myself I probably face charges. The NRA has good training programs. Make the police go to those, or something. I suspect this is mostly because they panic, but you can have people prone to panic executing people.
7) Pass a law requiring everyone writing blogs who cite statistics on police shootings to read at least one analysis comparing and criticizing the statistical methods for the different studies AND require said blog writers to acknowledge that there are studies with contradictory findings.
Steve
I think that you would be disappointed with the results if all of the things you propose were effected. I agree with 2-6. 7 is just being argumentative. You might consider the possibility that different people can see the available evidence in different ways.
IMO #1 is a bad idea. For example, it would result in more blacks being arrested for white collar crimes, hate crimes, and serial murders. I think it would be better if two people who committed the same crimes were in similar jeopardy of being caught, tried, and convicted regardless of race (adjusted for patterns of habitation) but that has a couple of problems, too, the most important of which is that it is circular. How do you determine it? We can only determine the rates at which people are arrested for crimes, not the rates at which they commit them. In cities we conclude that the homicide rate among blacks is much higher than that among whites for several reasons: more black people are getting killed, their killers are being reported as black, and there are rather few reports of whites prowling black neighborhoods shooting young black men.
For example, my interpretation of the fact that rural blacks are arrested for homicide at about the same rate as rural whites and both are lower than the corresponding urban rates is that the rural black homicide rate is lower. Would yours be that rural law enforcement officers are less racist than urban?
“We can only determine the rates at which people are arrested for crimes, not the rates at which they commit them.”
I specifically cited drug crimes. Through a number of methods we have pretty good evidence that white people and black people use drugs at about the same rate. Once arrested they are more likely to be prosecuted, more likely to go to jail if convicted and they have longer sentences. I actually find it shocking that you wouldnt know this and not actually find it intuitive. The way it worked in small town America where I grew up was that if the child of the mayor, one of the police, one of the well off (like a doctor’s kid) was caught with pot they got a ride home and a stern lecture. Same if there were caught drinking. If you were not among that select group, you got busted. Oddly enough there were never any black kids among the select group. Maybe everyone got treated the same where you grew up, but I find that hard to believe. I also dont think it has changed much.
7 was mostly for fun, but it is obvious people see the “evidence” in different ways. That is why you need analysis of how that “evidence” is generated. Most people dont read studies very often and just accept a summation of the findings, especially if they agree with them.
Steve
I agree with you about the rate at which people are arrested for drug crimes.
I would say more broadly that a lot of the statutes that are used by the police to harass people should either be stricken from the books or enforced more uniformly and fairly.