Could someone please explain to me how the United States actually wins our war with Iran? Not how we have air superiority and can strike every military target. Not how the U. S. and Israeli militaries can strike at the Iranian leadership virtually at will. Not that Iran has provided ample provocations over the last 50 years. Not how we could just walk away from the war at will.
Walking away is not the same as winning and declaring victory does not make it so.
How can we win?
We have means, but no theory of victory. Absent that, “victory” becomes rhetorical rather than real.







You haven’t defined winning. To be fair neither has the Trump admin. I think its kind of built into the conservative/GOP DNA that if overwhelm some other country they will welcome us as liberators and reject heir current awful government but it just doesnt happen. I think maybe one could state that our goal is to make it difficult for Iran to produce weapons so we are just going to bomb the heck out of it every 5-10 years. We stop when the place looks awful and come back when they shown of rebuilding.
That leaves the issue of nukes. Under this scenario Iran has real motivation to develop them. It also makes them more interested in engaging in terror acts against US citizens which they have largely avoided. If eliminating that risk is part of the definition the only way we get there is an agreement that allows us to inspect Iran, like we had before.
I think you should ask a second question. What would Israel regard as a victory? I think they just want to destroy as much of Iran asa possible, concentrating on manufacturing so they cant build weapons, especially missiles. They would also like the US to send in ground troops to grab that uranium. My current bet is that if ground troops are landed there will be few or no Israeli troops involved.
Steve
I don’t think that the Israelis speak with a single voice. Indeed, Hamas’s biggest mistake has been to push them in that direction and they’ve been insistent on doing that for decades. To the extent that voice is Netanyahu I don’t think that Israel’s objective is well-aligned with ours.
As to your complaint I don’t think it’s up to me to define the objectives of the war. I’ve opposed it from the start. I still oppose it.