Please keep in mind that it is quite possible for the FBI to have interceded improperly or illegally on behalf of Hillary Clinton, have sought a FISA warrant to investigate a Trump campaign worker improperly or illegally, for the Trump campaign to have “colluded” with the Russians whatever that means, for the Russians to have interfered in U. S. elections, for the Mueller investigation to have known that the justification for its activities were on shaky or even fraudulent grounds, and for Donald Trump to have obstructed justice all at the same time. None of them justifies any of the others.
Neither two wrongs nor ten wrongs make a right.
It seems to me that conducting “honest, above board” elections should be the goal in selecting the leaders of this country. And, when needed, any scrutiny of our election process should be done with the ends being discovering the “truth,” rather than debasing facts in order to advantage one party’s political positioning.
Keeping this in mind, when one gets into the weeds of the investigation surrounding the last election, those FISA warrants appear to have been crafted from, weak, partisan, bogus information. The Nunes memo only gives a summary of the Intel arising from the bare bones basis of those warrants. And, it is the Nunes crowd who wants the underlying documents declassified in order to have the assertions in his memo detailed more fully and affirmed. The Dems, however, are opposing this move, preferring, instead, to keep facts at a distance and partisan speculation alive and stirring the emotional pot of the people. IMO, the former’s sentiments seem more intent on honestly uncovering the truth, while the latter appears to be more dishonest and intent on actually subverting the truth.
BTW, Schiff was totally disingenuous when he claimed the D’s counter memo was being thwarted. While the Nunes memo was voted out of committee with nary a D vote, the vote to release a Dem memo received a 100% committee vote. Any delay, however, was simply because the dem’s narrative hadn’t been written yet, and then had to go through the same vetting procedure it’s republican predecessor had to go through.
@jan
Good to see you surface, but you are still a stupid-face & poopie-head.
The Republicans and Democrats are only interested in … honestly uncovering the truth … as long as it benefits them. Otherwise, they will do anything to bury the truth. In my opinion, the Democrats are more skilled than the Republicans, but President Trump plays both like a fiddle.
I would suggest that you add a tagline to your posts. I should be something like:
– 100% right about Mitt Romney, 100% right about …
– I was right then, and I am right now.
– Badass commenter babe. (What can I say? I am a sexist.)
Well, sure. Until tonight passes, its also possible an asteroid will come down tonight and end the earth as we know it. But in the real world we employ judgment.
Lets take your list.
FBI and Hillary – favorably doctored memo, before an interview is even conducted? Not under oath? Her chums allowed to go from witnesses to “counsel” so they could hear first hand her responses. No one I know has said this is standard procedure.
The FISA warrant – a pee pee story, paid for by the competing candidate. Called salacious and unverified later by the FBI head?!? False corroborating evidence cited. A drunk nobody? Not compelling.
Trump Russian collusion – anything. Anything? Say it ain’t over yet if you want, but in leak city give me a break. Even a shred of evidence?
Mueller – Hard to imagine he didn’t know the FISA warrant was approved on, shall we say, suspect grounds. Ahem. And what up with that staffing profile? The best and the brightest, with Mr 9-0 Overturned Enron scandal? Strzok? Not an inspiring staffing job.
Russian interference in the election? – Well, yeah. For years and years. Any new news?
Yes, its always possible there is some unknown smoking gun somewhere, But so far, those pushing that case have produced essentially nothing but a spastic, everchanging list of weird charges. Its easy to sit back and wait until the end. One is always right, but also useless. Low level analysts are afforded that status. In the real world people evaluate and use judgment. Damage is occurring while time passes.
I would add another layer to Dave’s comments.
It may be true that there is an effort to discredit the Mueller investigation, while also being true that FBI must conduct the investigation with the utmost appearance of impartiality if its findings are going to be worth much.
(Actually, I think both of these things are true)
Always like reading your replies, tasty. However, sometimes the tongue-in-cheek is so thick that it comes across as nothing more than a discordant mumble.
“Badass babe”