Misery Loves Company

The topic of Jon Haidt’s post is summarized here:

All of Gen Z got more anxious and depressed after 2012. But Lukianoff’s reverse CBT hypothesis is the best explanation I have found for Why the mental health of liberal girls sank first and fastest.

This graph illustrates the point:

What happened in 2012?

After examining the evidence, including the fact that the same trends happened at the same time in Britain, Canada, and Australia, Goldberg concluded that “Technology, not politics, was what changed in all these countries around 2012. That was the year that Facebook bought Instagram and the word “selfie” entered the popular lexicon.”

This passage explains the “reverse CBT hypothesis”:

Greg is prone to depression, and after hospitalization for a serious episode in 2007, Greg learned CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy). In CBT you learn to recognize when your ruminations and automatic thinking patterns exemplify one or more of about a dozen “cognitive distortions,” such as catastrophizing, black-and-white thinking, fortune telling, or emotional reasoning. Thinking in these ways causes depression, as well as being a symptom of depression. Breaking out of these painful distortions is a cure for depression.

What Greg saw in 2013 were students justifying the suppression of speech and the punishment of dissent using the exact distortions that Greg had learned to free himself from. Students were saying that an unorthodox speaker on campus would cause severe harm to vulnerable students (catastrophizing); they were using their emotions as proof that a text should be removed from a syllabus (emotional reasoning). Greg hypothesized that if colleges supported the use of these cognitive distortions, rather than teaching students skills of critical thinking (which is basically what CBT is), then this could cause students to become depressed. Greg feared that colleges were performing reverse CBT.

I wanted to remark on this passage, describing the notion of “locus of control”:

As first laid out by Julian Rotter in the 1950s, this is a malleable personality trait referring to the fact that some people have an internal locus of control—they feel as if they have the power to choose a course of action and make it happen, while other people have an external locus of control—they have little sense of agency and they believe that strong forces or agents outside of themselves will determine what happens to them. Sixty years of research show that people with an internal locus of control are happier and achieve more. People with an external locus of control are more passive and more likely to become depressed.

Radicalization—any sort of radicalization—promotes the development of an external locus of control. The radicalized tend to attribute every setback to whatever it is they’re radicalized with respect to. If you’re radicalized with respect to race, you are predisposed to attribute every setback to race; if you’re radicalized with respect to gender, you’re predisposed to attribute every setback to gender; if you’re radicalized with respect to sexual preference, you’re predisposed to attribute every setback to sexual preference; and so on.

One will always encounter hardships and setbacks in life. When there are lots of miserable radicalized people around and they are driven to make other people as miserable as they are themselves, you get, well, where we are right now.

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  • bob sykes Link

    The fact that birth rates have collapsed everywhere, not just in China, except Africa, suggests to a Darwinian that humans have not been able to adapt to modern society. Could the various depressions, dysphorias, and manias that seem to have exploded among the young be yet other symptoms? Are the suicidal foreign policies of the ruling neocons also a symptom?

  • bob sykes Link

    PS. There is very good news, too:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/mediated-by-china-iran-and-saudi-arabia-restore-ties-there-are-winners-and-losers.html#comments

    Saudi Arabia and Iran are renewing diplomatic relations, and will reopen embassies and exchange ambassadors.

    China did it. They mediated the reconciliation (maybe too optimistic). Peace in the Gulf is in everyone’s interests, but especially China’s.

    The US, egged on by Israel, has been fomenting discord in the region, with a goal of destroying the Iranian regime. That policy has spectacularly failed. Which US policy will fail next. Evidently Afghanistan was just the first pebble in the landslide.

    There appears to be a major realignment taking place, away from US domination to the multipolar world. That is all to the good.

  • Drew Link

    “One will always encounter hardships and setbacks in life. When there are lots of miserable radicalized people around and they are driven to make other people as miserable as they are themselves, you get, well, where we are right now.”

    There is an awful lot implicitly packed in that observation. Substandard personal achievement. Unhappiness. Breakdown of traditional interpersonal and group relationships/seeking refuse in the cyberworld. Seeking people to blame/punishing them. Enlisting media, academia and government to squash or control ideas and information, and provide (faux) fixes. Silliness in the large corporate world. It goes on.

    Oh, for the days when a certain commenter sloughed it all off as a few overwrought kids on campus. I think Taibbi and Shellenberger would beg to differ, just as a start.

  • Could the various depressions, dysphorias, and manias that seem to have exploded among the young be yet other symptoms?

    I think it’s actually pretty simple. You can’t fight a couple of million years of evolution. Women are happier when they have children. Today’s problem isn’t teenage pregnancy but lack of it along with teenage marriage.

    That flies in the face of the dogma of the last 50 years and is definitely not in the interest of a relative handful of upper middle class women who are pursuing careers in the professions and as business executives.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    Men are happier with children too; but it shows in different ways then women.

    Something in the post reminded me of an essay by scholars stage (https://scholars-stage.org/questing-for-transcendence/). A lot of the issues talked about here relates to the two ways that the essay proposes humans deal with the drive for transcendence.

  • Victor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning is a good book on that very subject.

    Another worth considering is Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi’s Flow.

  • steve Link

    Fertility drops everywhere when income increases.

    I have seen a lot of commentary on this article but does anyone know what the increase from 1.9 to 2.6 for female libs actually means? Its an index of some sort but I have no idea what that means in actual behavior. I skimmed the paper (moderates and ensures have pretty much the same changes as liberals) but didnt find what they meant. Since i think most psychology literature is BS will confess couldn’t bring myself to read every word.

    Steve

  • Fertility drops everywhere when income increases.

    Yes, working outside the home is in competition with childbearing and -rearing. I suspect that in most places, for most women, and for most jobs women work because they must rather than because they want to or that it’s fulfilling.

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