Maybe He Never Was a Progressive

I think that Michael Shellenberger’s post, “Why I Am Not a Progressive”, is important. I don’t just mean important to him. I think he’s making a larger point although I’m not sure he and I would agree on what that is. I find it hard to except meaningfully but I’ll sample a few snippets for you:

When President Barack Obama ran for office in 2008, it seemed fitting to me that he chose the slogan, “Yes we can!”

But now, on all the major issues of the day, the message from progressives is “No, you can’t.”

or here:

The reason progressives believe that “No one is safe,” when it comes to climate change, and that the drug death “homelessness” crisis is unsolvable, is because they are in the grip of a victim ideology characterized by safetyism, learned helplessness, and disempowerment.

or here:

On climate change, drug deaths, and cultural issues like racism, the message from progressives is that we are doomed unless we dismantle the institutions responsible for our oppressive, racist system.

and, coincidentally, responsible for our prosperity, self-determination, and freedom.

Or here:

After World War II, it was progressives, not conservatives, who led the charge to replace mental hospitals with community-based care. After the community-based care system fell apart, and severely mentally ill people ended up living on the street, addicted to drugs and alcohol, progressives blamed Reagan and Republicans for cutting the budget. But progressive California today spends more than any other state, per capita, on mental health, and yet the number of homeless, many of whom are mentally ill and suffering addiction, increased by 31% in California since 2010 even as they declined by 18 percent in the rest of the US.

Among the reasons I think the post is important is that he’s putting reasonably well-documented flesh on the bones of a point I have made here repeatedly: progressives are not liberals. It is liberals who believe in equality and empowerment. Progressives are Whigs. They are the heirs of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, radicals. Convinced they are in the vanguard of history they are insistent on overthrowing the institutions they detest, essentially all of them, in favor of what? Whatever it is, surely it will be better. They reject the very notion of human nature, that people respond to incentives, or that physical principles can possibly be any barrier to their vision of the future.

The “will to apocalypse” to which he refers is not a liberal trope; it is radical. They need an apocalypse to provide a pretext for overthrowing the existing order. This:

A major report by the National Academies of Science in 1982 concluded that abundant natural gas, along with nuclear power, would substitute for coal, and prevent temperatures from rising high enough to threaten civilization. But progressives responded by demonizing the authors of the study and insisting that anybody who disagreed that climate change was apocalyptic was secretly on the take from the fossil fuel industry.

and this:

People are shocked when I explain to them that the reason California still lacks enough homeless shelters is because progressives have opposed building them. Indeed, it was Governor Newsom, when he was Mayor of San Francisco, who led the charge opposing the construction of sufficient homeless shelters in favor of instead building single unit apartments for anybody who said they wanted one. While there are financial motivations for such a policy, the main motivation was ideological. Newsom and other progressives believe that simply sheltering people is immoral. The good is the enemy of the perfect.

That’s the very definition of radicalism and it’s a typical example of flawed progressive thinking.

I would suggest that, contrary to Mr. Shellenberger’s belief, he may never have been a progressive. Maybe he has actually been a liberal which is to say an apostate all along.

4 comments… add one
  • steve Link

    Szasz, one of the primary leaders of getting people out of institutions was more libertarian influenced. Goffman, several people at Penn remembered him, didnt seem especially political from their POV. Having lived and worked in the middle of that it always seemed more like an anti-government movement.

    Steve

  • Drew Link

    Try that crap elsewhere, steve. What next, invoking Nurse Rachet? Legitimate deinstitutionalization was primarily a reaction to the ham fisted one size fits all approach of lock up or lobotomize pre-1960ish, and made possible in no small part due to the development of thorazine for low grade psychiatric disorders. Someone like Szazs was just a whack job, practically denying mental illness at all. Cruelly left behind in the deinstitutionalization movement were the true problems: profoundly addicted people, often with associated brain damage, mentally retarded people, non-functioning autistics, extreme schyzofrenics and so forth. To this day institutionalization is fought vigorously by the left.

    I spent the last week in DC with my daughter. Just two blocks from the White House is a huge homeless camp, along with numerous others scattered among parks in NoMa, DuPont Circle, Shaw etc. Just observe. The current situation is inhumane, and not solvable by handout money. These people have profound problems and in no way shape or form should they not be in institutions.

    “Among the reasons I think the post is important is that he’s putting reasonably well-documented flesh on the bones of a point I have made here repeatedly: progressives are not liberals.”

    That’s the easy part. However, current governing is progressive, so what does it matter? And it is certainly the very antithesis the holy grail: classic liberalism.

    “They need an apocalypse to provide a pretext for overthrowing the existing order.”

    Of course. Never let a good crisis go to waste is treated antiseptically as a quip. But it explains environmentalist alarmism, covid alarmism, George Floyd (but ignoring the Austin neighborhood) underpinnings of BLM/CRT efforts and so forth.

    You may very well be correct on Shellenberger. As I have noted before, whether one believes in AGW or not, I highly recommend his book Apocalypse Never as a sober treatment of environmental issues and criticism of environmental alarmism.

  • steve Link

    I lived through that while you are just talking about it. I worked at a couple of community mental health emergency services in rougher parts of Philly and also at PGH. Got stabbed while working there. I am very aware of who was released since I worked with them.

    At the time it was all heavily flavored by the anti-government types. Remember that would include both the left wing groups and the right wing groups who were antigovernment. There have always been some left wing anarchists and anti-gov types. It was the states that were running the state hospitals and the conditions in a lot of them really were terrible. So it was anti-gov with a lot of truth to it. Of course a lot of it was funding. No one wanted to spend much money on the people we were locking up. Spend as little as possible and warehouse them. While this was true of both parties it was more pronounced on the right since they dont want govt spending.

    It was assumed that markets would work and that a lot of new private mental health hospitals would open to absorb pts who needed to be rehospitalized. That didnt happen. Those pts did not have insurance. Besides thorazine and the other phenothiazines that came out then (I have given hundreds of IM thorazine shots) we also had lithium begin to take hold for manic-depressives, now bipolar disorder. People were overly optimistic about those drugs. We even used prolixin for quite a while, a longer acting IM antipsychotic that was supposed to avoid the issue of highly varied drug levels and compliance. It failed.

    It was not some vast left wing movement to get people out. There were people left and right who thought the govt was doing a lousy job of caring for people in state facilities. There was too much hope placed on the new drugs. And the last group were those who didnt want to spend money on state hospitals and thought it would be even cheaper to care for them outside of state facilities.

    Steve

  • Grey Shambler Link

    Institutions:
    In Nebraska we had the Beatrice State Developmental Center which I believe at it’s peak, housed 500 or more “residents” ranging from the physically handicapped to the violently mentally ill.
    I visited as part of a church youth group in 1969, and it was truly awful.
    I remember a large gymnasium with a couple hundred residents, howling and fighting with one another, a television protected by chicken wire in the center, the same wire protecting the glass in the windows.
    I have no idea and cannot imagine how they managed meals or sleeping arrangements for this group.
    But I understand that this was an improvement from the previous century, when admission was charged on the weekends for the public to view the crazies.
    I believe conditions gradually improved up until the early 21st century when parents of residents began to file suits against the state for deaths occurring at the facility.
    The result of the judgements was a mass transfer of residents to hospitals and nursing homes throughout the state resulting in many deaths during transit and shortly after as residents were extremely fragile.
    The State Developmental Center is now closed and the fate of former residents is undocumented.
    https://www.ada.gov/olmstead/documents/nebraska_findings.pdf

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