It’s Complicated

Principia Scientific lists 20 recent papers documenting the relationship between solar variation and climate change here on earth.

I think that climate change probably has no single cause but that human agency, solar variation, and any number of other factors probably play a role.

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  • Steve Link

    Looked over the first two papers. They are looking at long term trends and it looks like their observations largely stop 20-30 years ago. We have been tracking total solar output for a while. Unless there is something in the other papers that says so, solar output plateaued about 30-40 years ago but temperatures kept rising.

    Steve

  • CStanley Link

    I keep wondering if we could be getting lucky enough for an ironic twist- AGW causing a raise in temperatures and counterbalancing the onset of what would have been an Ice Age.

  • Modulo Myself Link

    One look at that website’s logo made me google it. It’s not very–what’s the word?– credible . Apparently the founder wrote a book about how there’s no such thing as the greenhouse effect.

    Two of the papers are about an 11-year solar cycle. How would that have anything to do with the actual data? It doesn’t seem like they’re even trying; it’s just throwing stuff at the wall.

    Anyway, the basic science has been known for years. CO2 is a greenhouse gas, and humans are methodically putting it into the atmosphere. It’s not hard to draw a conclusion from that. The energy companies knew about it back in the 70s.

  • Andy Link

    “I think that climate change probably has no single cause but that human agency, solar variation, and any number of other factors probably play a role.”

    That’s my understanding of the current level of science. The debate is over the relative strengths of each factor. Most climate scientists believe human activity accounts for greater than 50% of the observed warming over the past century, but they haven’t been able to quantify it accurately. The skeptical/heretical scientist either say there isn’t enough data to know or believe it’s less than 50%.

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