In an op-ed in the New York Times Algerian Kamel Daoud asks an important question? Why doesn’t France produce its own imams?
PARIS — What to do about Islam in France? Considering Islamist terrorist attacks, communalism and the international manipulation of Muslim communities, the matter is pressing. But it’s contentious, because managing Islam seems to go against laïcité, France’s staunch version of state secularism, and a 1905 law that mandates the separation of church and state.
Wouldn’t revising that law be an admission that secularism is bowing to Islamism? On the other hand, if the law isn’t revised, or if the French state cannot find other ways of monitoring and steering Islam, then Islam in France risks falling under the control of foreign states or the influence of radicals. That is already the case, actually: Since laïcité prohibits the French authorities from using public funds to build mosques or train imams, Algeria, Morocco, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have stepped in. According to the newsmagazine L’Express, 70 percent of imams practicing in France are not French.
In the United States it is estimated that 80% of imams are foreign-born and most of those are Wahhabis from Saudi Arabia. That suggests that the lack of native imams has nothing to do with U. S. or French policy but with Muslim preference. Indeed, in the U. S. polling has suggested that American Muslims don’t trust American-educated imams.
In order to be an effective imam you must speak Arabic, preferably the dialect of Arabic spoken in Saudi Arabia because that is closest to the classical Arabic of the Qur’an.
My answer will probably sound harsh to many. Modern Islam is, as it has always been, a stalking horse for Arab cultural imperialism. It does not thrive in contact with the secular Western world without being replenished from the source. That we tolerate the funding of mosques and imams by foreign governments is one of the unhinged things about our modern life.
Of course I think you’re right, but you have to be careful talking like that. Have to be welcoming of dominating cultures as well.
There has to be some point at which the west has bent over far enough, you’d think, and then I see American women on campus wearing burkas in solidarity.
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Zero chance American women who are not Muslims seriously take up burkas. Can’t show off the plastic surgery wearing those. I don’t know that much about imam training, but I do know that in Africa a lot of ministers, until recently, were trained elsewhere as they didn’t have the schools. What about the Shia? We had a big influx from Iran in the 70s. Where do their religious leaders come from?
Steve
Nearly entirely home-grown. But Iran is not a secular state and it’s authoritarian to boot so nothing there makes any difference other than what the mullahs think. Iraq will be interesting to follow.
Keep in mind that 80-90% of all Muslims are Sunni, most of those who are Shi’ites live in Iran, Iraq, or Saudi Arabia, and that Wahhabi Islam is actively supporting mosques all over the world.
“Zero chance……â€
Heh.
Yeah, zero chance we’d have 20+mm illegals, Democrats supporting mass immigration screwing poor people, including blacks, idiotic proposals for 70% marginal tax rates and wealth taxes, Trump as President, Hillary as a credible candidate, execrable people accusing a Supreme Court nominee as the rape captain, mass media as wholesale propagandists for a political party……..
Zero chance. Zero, I tell you.
Yet we also tolerate Catholics importing priests from India and Ireland, export fundamentalist missionaries world wide and look askance when Anglican congregations place themselves under the control of African bishops and we permit fez wearing minibike rider teams from the Wahabi shrine temple. Freedom of religion is something we encourage.
There is a difference. Catholic priests don’t teach that the U. S. (or French) government is illegitimate. The ultra-strict Wahhabi imams do. The Catholic priests also aren’t supported by the Italian or Vatican governments. I have no problem with imams being here. I do have a problem with imams that are supported by foreign governments being here just as I have a problem with any other unregistered foreign agents being here.