In the New York Times Spencer Bokat-Lindell wonders whether arming the Ukrainians will actually end the war in Ukraine:
As Noam Chomsky recently put it in an interview with The Intercept, there are, broadly speaking, two ways for a war to end: The first is for one side to be destroyed; the second is for the two sides to negotiate a settlement.
At the moment, the prospects for a negotiated settlement look grim, as Ishaan Thanoor explains in The Washington Post:
- Negotiations have stalled, and after Ukrainian forces sank the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet in April, Putin reportedly “lost interest in diplomatic efforts to end his war.â€
- The Ukrainians, Thanoor writes, “say that Russian atrocities against their civilians make any prospect of territorial or political concessions impossible and that, with support from abroad, they are beating Russia on the ground.â€
Chomsky, for his part, believes that Russia’s military is simply too strong to lose; in the absence of a settlement, Ukraine will be destroyed.
He goes on to claim that Washington has never been interested in diplomacy:
“We can’t know for certain whether more rigorous U.S.-Russia diplomacy — including discussions surrounding NATO expansion and Ukrainian neutrality — might have succeeded in preventing Russia’s invasion,†writes Alex Jordan at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. “We won’t know because it was — according to White House officials — never really tried.â€
and that NATO’s objectives aren’t entirely clear:
NATO itself also needs to clarify its objectives, what it is willing to compromise on and how, argues Rajan Menon, a senior research fellow at the Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies at Columbia University. Does NATO want to maintain sanctions indefinitely to diminish Russia’s power, or are there conditions it could meet to lift them? “It is within Putin’s power to wind down this war,†he writes, “but what NATO does matters as well.â€
NATO’s plan is predicated on the assumptions that 1) the Ukrainians can prevail on the ground and 2) that if the war is made expensive enough, Russia will sue for peace. What if those assumptions are false?
I think Chomsky presents a false choice. Wars can stalemate and cease active hostilities for generations without a negotiated settlement. I don’t think Pakistan and India have ever negotiated a settlement. And there are several frozen conflicts involving Russia (Georgia, Azerbaijan, Moldavia, and Crimea). Conflicts can at least temporarily stall-out along lines that the belligerent power can practically hold from which the occupied country lacks the power to expel. This seems more likely in Ukraine from the outset.
Washington is plainly not interested in a negotiated settlement. They prevented Poroshenko and Zelensky from implementing the Minsk accords, and they are preventing Zelensky from negotiating with the Russians. Remember, Zelensky ran on a peace platform that included negotiating with Donbas/Russia, and he got overwhelming support, some 73%, if I remember correctly.
So now the war will go on. Russia is winning. The Ukrainian military is a shambles. The war will end when Russia has the territory it wants.
The question now is, Will Russia attack Finland if it joins NATO? I think the answer is, Yes. Yes also to invasions of the Baltic states.
PS. Considering Phil Gramm’s proposal to heavily arm Taiwan, I think a Chinese attack on the US’ Pacific Coast is in the cards. Their missile boats could attack targets at least as far inland as Denver, and maybe even St. Louis.
The very aggressive policies pushed by our neocons are most certainly not deterrents. They are incites to war (as was our Ukrainian policy), and make a world war in the next few years (weeks?) likely, if not certain.
The negotiations need to be between Ukraine and Russia. I think the role of NATO is to provide support to a country which has been invaded. No one has asked Ukraine to fight, they just don’t want to become part of Russia. Should we tell former Soviet countries to stop asking to join NATO and the EU and just accept their permanent vassla state? Those countries know Russia abetter than we do and know the risks.
Steve
Flawed?
Judging by recent history, almost certainly.