How Many Physicians Should We Have?

And who should bear the cost of that? While I agree in broad terms with James Capretta’s proposals for improving our policies respecting physicians:

The federal government should encourage a more adaptive and flexible pipeline of physicians entering the US market by (1) shifting away from the excessively hospital-centric orientation of current funding for residency training and directing the aid to the residents themselves; (2) promoting new forms of institutional certification with fewer ties to the economic interests of existing practitioners and academic medical centers; (3) adjusting the Medicare fee schedule, which sets income expectations for physicians, based on the market prices revealed through transparency initiatives; (4) promoting and testing a shorter and less costly education option that merges a traditional undergraduate curriculum with medical school; and (5) enacting immigration policies that accommodate a larger influx of well-trained and talented foreign-born physicians.

I think a little explanation is in order and we should, perhaps, be considering some additional questions.

The first thing I believe needs explanation is that the Medicare system pays something in the vicinity of $80,000 for each and every medical resident in the country, the amount paid to the hospital by which the residents are employed, and has done for the last 55 years. The rationale for this was to increase the number of physicians. Its effect has been to establish a cap on the number of physicians.

Presently, the AMA plays a key role in establishing the relative value of various different procedures and, consequently, the expected pay for different medical specialties. I won’t burden you with the mechanisms by which that is achieved. You just need to accept that it is true. I don’t believe that should be the case and one way of changing it could be by changing the formula by which hospitals are paid for medical residents. For example, should we actually be subsidizing all medical specialties? Or should we just be subsidizing those we want more of?

Many people are not aware of it but the U. S. is one of the few countries in the world in which medicine is a post-graduate course of training. It’s controversial but there is no clear relationship between outcomes and years of medical education. Or between physician pay and outcomes for that matter.

Now my questions. Do we really need more physicians? Or should we engage in a larger reorganization of the way in which health care has been delivered? Unlike Mr. Capretta I would suggest ending the system of paying for medical residents in favor of encouraging many, many more physician assistants and nurse practitioners and nudging medical education more in the direction of a supervisory role. That’s the present general direction and IMO it’s a good one.

Is the cost of health care in the U. S. really established by supply and demand? I think that Medicare functions as an income price support for physicians. That is supported by the reality that nearly all physicians accept Medicare. If that’s right, then the most important thing we could do to reduce the price of health care would be to stop increasing the Medicare reimbursement rates, something our legislators have demurred from doing.

Finally, I think #5 is flummery. Is there a single case of a foreign-trained doc who was denied entry to the U. S.? We’re in serious competition for medical professionals with the United Kingdom, France, Germany and just about every other developed country in the world. Said another way, our high compensation rate and thirst for physicians is raising the cost of health care everywhere. There is a market in GPs. That’s why their price is so close among the countries in the developed world. And I haven’t even touched on the grave immorality of luring physicians the cost of whose educations are borne by their home countries away from those countries.

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  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    This I think is very interesting (via hotair)

    http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/phcommon/public/media/mediapubhpdetail.cfm?prid=2328

    A serological study from LA public health; it has similar results to the Stanford study from the other day. The fact a different University (USC) and public health officials are backing the results makes it worth watching.

    Most importantly, the study implies a mortality rate of 0.2%. The fate of a lot of things will depend on who is right (Stanford, USC, LA public health) or the studies coming from Iceland, Germany, Austria (where the mortality rate is 1%).

  • TarsTarkas Link

    Steve would be more qualified to comment on this post than I am, but IMO what you seem to be describing is a subsidized cartel, modified by imports of green card foreigners to help fill the shortfall. The free market has not been in operation since the formalization of medical licensing (not that I want to go back to the days that anybody could call themselves a ‘doctor’ and get away with it, witness the notorious Doc Holliday of Tombstone fame).

    One of the big beefs I have had with hospital care is the ‘team’ concept, whereby the patient and their loved ones never seem to see the same physician and the same questions are asked repeatedly as if they had no access to the previous physician’s remarks. The lack of continuity makes it hard for laymen to follow or understand what treatment(s) are being given.

  • bob sykes Link

    When I was studying engineering, we were taught to design for extreme events, the 100-year flood, rush hour traffic flow, hurricane force wind, … The medical establishment seems to design its staffing and facilities for average conditions or a little more, say Friday nights in Dorchester (been there, done that). Of course if they did design for peak demand, we would have empty hospitals and idle doctors and nurses on pay.

    As of Sunday, 52% of all the COVID-19 deaths in the US have occurred in the NYC metropolitan area. In the US, coronavirus is a NYC problem. The obvious solution is to transfer large numbers of medical staff and equipment from the 41 states with little COVID-19 to NYC. I also like the idea of a quarantine for NYC. Close the bridges, tunnels and airports.

    Transfer of medical staff runs afoul of state licensing laws, and state governors would go batsh*t crazy if the feds drafted “their” people and took “their” equipment.

  • steve Link

    ” I think that Medicare functions as an income price support for physicians. ”

    As you know thesis just a matter of personal belief with no good way to figure it out. I think that Medicare raises prices so that it can remain close enough to prices paid by private insurers that providers will not drop Medicare. If it were truly a price support then I think that you would expect to see private insurers charging a tiny amount more or even the same as Medicare.

    “many more physician assistants and nurse practitioners and nudging medical education more in the direction of a supervisory role. ”

    I have no problem with that, but it does have practical issues. It is a bit hard to supervise if that is all that you ever do. You may have 4 times the training and lot broader training than your mid-levels but if all you do is supervise they will sometimes have more practical experience.

    Also, it would be huge help if non-medical celebrities would shut up and stop giving medical advice.

    Steve

  • Guarneri Link

    Play with this. State by state, county by county.

    https://www.bing.com/covid/local/florida_unitedstates?form=C19ANS

  • I’m not sure how we might disaggregate the various factors involved including population density, demographics, latitude, transit modalities, etc. Suffice it to say that NYC’s problems are distinctive and not characteristic of the country as a whole.

    In Illinois the Chicago metropolitan area is responsible for 90% of the fatalities without having 90% of the population but even the mortality rate in Chicago is little like New York’s.

  • TarsTarkas Link

    Steve: I hope you don’t consider ME a celebrity, considering how much free medical ‘advice’ I’ve been giving you. If it’s bothersome, I’ll stop.

    I just heard that Temple just admitted their first COVID-19 patient (why is it their first?) hinting that public hospital beds are filled up. True or false?

  • steve Link

    It’s OK to give me advice, just don’t do it for your 80 million Twitter followers.

    At least a couple of days ago Temple had more Covid puts than anyone else in Philly. I think what you might be referring to is that they admitted their first to the Liacouras Center, the sports center they were planning to use as an overflow if they ran out of room.

    https://6abc.com/education/first-philly-coronavirus-patients-being-admitted-to-liacouras-center/6116674/

    Steve

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