A Tale of Two Narratives

There are two competing narratives about what happened in the presidential election of 2016. According to one narrative an incompetent doofus prevailed over the obviously more competent female opponent by virtue of Republican shenanigans and the antiquated electoral college. In the other narrative a wily challenger prevailed over an incompetent but highly credentialed unpopular female candidate, losing primarily states that have large electoral vote counts primarily because of their immigrant non-voting populations, a violation of the principle of “one person one vote”. I don’t believe that either narrative is entirely true or entirely false. I think that Democrats are relying too heavily on the imaginary story they’ve told themselves about the 2016 election.

At RealClearPolitics David Brady, Morris Fiorina and Douglas Rivers raise the disquieting possibility that whether Donald Trump is re-elected may depend on whom the Democrats nominate:

Is it really the case that any Democrat can beat Trump? On closer inspection, that outcome looks less certain. For starters, history shows that one shouldn’t put much faith in trial-heat polls 18 months ahead of a presidential election. Moreover one recent survey experiment by YouGov indicates that a surprisingly large proportion of the electorate – about 40 percent — reports that the choice between President Trump and a Democratic challenger depends on the identity of the Democrat. These voters are “in play” or “up for grabs.” There are more of them than there are completely committed Democratic or Trump voters.

YouGov polled 3,000 Americans between Feb. 28 and March 3. We asked our respondents how they would vote in an election between Trump and nine declared or potential Democratic candidates (Joe Biden, Cory Booker, Julian Castro, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Beto O’Rourke, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren). To avoid voter fatigue we did not ask each voter to make eight decisions. Rather, each voter chose between Trump and three randomly selected Democrats, so roughly 1,000 respondents participated in each trial heat. If respondents said that they would vote for the Democrat in all three trial heats or Trump in all three, we then asked: Would you always (never) vote for any Democrat?

Democrats led in seven of the nine trial heats, but the “always Trump” and “never Trump” blocks were nearly identical in size: 36 of respondents said they would vote for the Democratic candidate in all three matchups and 35 percent said they would vote for Trump in all three. When asked the follow-up question, about one in seven said that there was a Democratic nominee who would cause them to switch parties. The good news for Democrats is that there are more Trump supporters who are willing to consider voting for a Democrat than vice versa. The bad news for Democrats is that 40 percent of the electorate say that their vote in 2020 depends upon the identity of the Democratic nominee. This is the largest segment of the electorate and consists of three groups:

  • People who preferred Trump over a Democrat in one or two of the three trial heats and a Democrat over Trump in the others (4%).
  • People who favored all of the three Democratic candidates in the matchups we asked them about, but in the follow-up question said that there was a Democrat who, if nominated, would cause them to vote for Trump (11%).
  • People who were unsure of how they would vote in at least one of the three trial heats (26%).

Unregistered voters are disproportionately represented in the last group. Among registered voters, the Democratic advantage is larger (38% never Trump, 31% always Trump, and 31% depends), but nearly a third of registered voters are “available” for Trump depending on whom the Democrats nominate.

Read the whole thing.

6 comments… add one
  • Andy Link

    “At RealClearPolitics David Brady, Morris Fiorina and Douglas Rivers raise the disquieting possibility that whether Donald Trump is re-elected may depend on whom the Democrats nominate”

    That seemed patently obvious to me the day after Trump was elected.

    At this point, I can’t see myself voting for Trump so my choice is really between the Democrat and third-party candidate and so my vote depends entirely on who the Dems nominate.

  • TarsTarkas Link

    Joe Biden may not be personally corrupt, but he’s done a lot of corrupt things to set his children up for life. Bernie Sanders has been a parasite on the body politic all his life and still thinks true socialism has never been tried. Warren is a pathological cultural-appropriating liar. Kamala Harris got her start with bedroom politics, and even her former mentor just shakes his head at her antics. My pit bull is smarter and more honest than Swallwell. Booker is simply ludicrous. Bloomberg (who so far as I know isn’t running yet) thinks that crime will go away if guns go away. Yang thinks China’s social media thought police are something we should emulate. I could go on and on, but right now if the choice is vomiting for Trump or picking any of the present Democratic candidates, I’m for vomit.

  • Jan Link

    That was quite a critique on various dem candidates, Tars! IMO, the choices on the left are somewhere between insane and ludicrous.

  • Guarneri Link

    I notice that Dave has chosen not to comment on the Barr hearings, probably because he views them as a food fight. I found the Democrats performance to be puerile.

    For a narrow, but crucial, legal point the following treatment of the legal definition of obstruction is commented upon. I find Mueller, despite the robotic claims as to his integrity, to be a petty and malicious man. (It is now clear he knew there was no collusion at least a year ago, yet continued this garbage.). In any event, he apparently hung his hat on the most expansive and political definition of obstruction he could, prolonging this charade to no viable end. Then threw it to the kangaroo courts.

    https://humanevents.com/2019/05/01/checkmate/

  • I prefer to avoid partisan bickering.

  • Guarneri Link

    You can call it partisan bickering, but as I have pointed out before, this fiasco has done tremendous harm to individuals and the nation. It is a national shame. Pretending to fly above the fray is in a way immoral.

    In any event, the whole thing is coming apart at the seams, as I have predicted for approximately a year. It’s now coming apart faster than even I suspected. The NYTs is CYAing and admitting spying. And hell has frozen over. MSNBC today admitted same. Poor Rachel.

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