What They Believe

Another ignorant, self-serving, no-nothing business executive gives an interview blaming slow growth on the federal government. In this case it’s Bernie Marcus, founder of Home Depot.

Managers don’t make business decisions based on Truth but based on what they believe to be true.

As best as I’ve been able to determine it looks to me as though Mr. Marcus is a pretty staunch Republican so it’s possible that his views could be politically motivated. I think it’s more the other way around: he’s a Republican because he holds the views that he does.

Update

He’s not alone:

• 3M’s George Buckley, who blasted Obama last February as anti-business. “We know what his instincts are,” Buckley said. “We’ve got a real choice between manufacturing in Canada or Mexico — which tends to be more pro-business — and America,” he told the Financial Times.

• Boeing’s Jim McNerney, who in the Wall Street Journal last May called Obama’s handpicked National Labor Relations Board’s suit against his company a “fundamental assault on the capitalist principles that have sustained America’s competitiveness since it became the world’s largest economy nearly 140 years ago.”

• Intel’s Paul Otellini, who told CNET last August that the U.S. legal environment has become so hostile to business that there is likely to be “an inevitable erosion and shift of wealth, much like we’re seeing today in Europe — this is the bitter truth.”

• Home Depot co-founder Bernie Marcus, who observed to radio host Hugh Hewitt last month that Obama “never had to make payroll,” that “nobody has ever created a job in this administration” and that the president is “surrounded by college professors.”

• GE’s Jeffrey Immelt, one of Obama’s biggest supporters, who hit out at the president last year. “Business did not like the U.S. president and the president did not like business,” the FT reported him saying. “People are in a really bad mood. We have to become an industrial powerhouse again, but you don’t do this when government and entrepreneurs are not in sync.”

• Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett, another Obama backer, who blasted Obama’s bank tax in January 2010 as a “guilt tax,” once called Obama’s carbon tax idea “regressive” and this month denounced Obama’s obsession with corporate jets.

The point here is not the objective truth of their views. The point is that these are their views and unless those views are changed somehow it will take a lot longer for the economy to recover than it otherwise would.

25 comments… add one
  • michael reynolds Link

    I think we can change their minds!

    Tell them we don’t care any more if they fail to pay their workers overtime, or fire people randomly, or screw them on their pension plans, or dump toxic chemicals into watersheds. No more regulation! Yay!

    Just one question: how come there was no job growth during George W. Bush’s 8 years in office?

    And how come jobs were being off-shored at a record rate then?

    And how come those 8 years ended in disaster?

    Wait! I know! Obama: he time traveled.

  • roadgeek Link

    I’m not certain I understand your point. What makes Bernie Marcus “ignorant, self-serving, no-nothing…”? All he and his partners did was start a single store in Atlanta and build it into an enormous corporation with 2200 stores and 320,000 employees, all in the space of 33 years. What makes him ignorant or self-serving or no-nothing? Were his accomplishments all some sort of bizarre accident?

  • I’m not certain I understand your point. What makes Bernie Marcus “ignorant, self-serving, no-nothing…”?

    I am being sarcastic. See the comments of this post for an understanding of the context.

  • michael reynolds Link

    Let’s see: epic housing bubble, Home Depot does well.

    Housing bubble pops, Home Depot doesn’t do so well.

    Explanation: government regulation.

    Dave, this doesn’t pass the laugh test.

  • Of those listed I think Boeing has a substantive beef with the Administration regarding the actions of the labor relations board.

    Also, I would be interested in hearing the opinions of businesspeople who aren’t CEO’s of multi-billion dollar corporations for reasons which should be obvious.

  • The issue is not substance. As I said in the title of my post it’s what they believe.

  • Sam Link

    What They Believe

    Seems to me anyone who listens to Rush or Glenn will believe this of a Democratic president no matter what. I hope you don’t believe those guys are good for the country.
    In reality I see a president so pragmatic to the point he’s completely uninspiring. His rhetoric may be anti-business, but his support for gang of 6 proposal is very pro-business. Nothing is going to grow until the people who took out home equity loans to buy crap from Home Depot get out of debt. Not even pro-business rhetoric can change that.

  • michael reynolds Link

    How does one persuade a CEO of Home Depot no less, a company 100% dependent on housing, who asserts in public that when housing crashes the problem is really regulation?

    He’s crazy or he’s a liar.

    Home Depot can either sell more washing machines and lumber per store, or open more stores. Either is dependent on more houses being built or remodeled. When a new subdivision gets built they build a Home Depot to go with it. Are subdivisions being built? No.

    But his problem is health care. And his audience is so credulous they believe this? How exactly does one persuade this sort of person?

  • I think what Michael is saying is that workers control the means of production.

  • Jeffrey Boser Link

    We have to keep in mind who CEO’s listen to. Other CEO types. As long as there isn’t a CEO saying “business is GREAT under Obama!” they will be getting their message from the message manufacturers like the US Chamber of Commerce (which is about as pro-commerce as an insect).

    Dave is right, this is a perception problem.

  • sam Link

    Managers don’t make business decisions based on Truth but based on what they believe to be true.

    As best as I’ve been able to determine it looks to me as though Mr. Marcus is a pretty staunch Republican so it’s possible that his views could be politically motivated. I think it’s more the other way around: he’s a Republican because he holds the views that he does.

    But that reminds me of the Will Wilkinson’s article on the uncertainty thing (Uncertainty and economic recovery — Partisan animal spirits):

    …I think the regime-uncertainty argument is plausible, and I’ve made it in the past. Paul Krugman does not think it’s a plausible argument…Now, as the behavioural economists never tire of reminding us, real economic players are at best distant kin to homo economicus. Real people are moved by all manner of animal spirit, including ideological prejudice… [W]hether entrepreneurs and small-business types see Washington as an adversary or partner is not entirely a matter of in-the-trenches business experience. It is at least partly a matter of political identity…

    “[M]anagers and administrators” as well as “owners and proprietors”, the groups that do most of the hiring, are significantly and increasingly more likely than average to vote Republican. This raises a fascinating possibility: that Republican-leaning businesspeople freak out when Democrats are in power. Let’s call this “partisan regime uncertainty”. Now, maybe there is a good reason Democrats in power make Republican businessfolk afraid to make a move, which would help explain the relatively dramatic flight of owners and proprietors away from the Democrats. Or maybe individuals most likely to run a business are also most likely to fall for empty, right-wing free-market rhetoric, and this has made them increasingly likely to see Democrats as forces of socialising chaos. I don’t know. In either case, we get partisan regime uncertainty.

    If this is a real phenomenon, and I would love to know whether it is, there are a couple of important implications. First, Mr Romney’s regime-uncertainty argument against President Obama could make him popular with nervous Republican burghers who…believe this message to be true. Second, and this is the humdinger, a Republican president could accelerate the economic recovery simply by virtue of being Republican.

    In short, there’s may be very strong reasons to believe that so-called regime uncertainty in a glandular condition. And as such, beyond the powers of mere reason to correct.

  • Dave,

    I understand your point that this represents what they believe. I’m simply saying that beyond that, the situation with Boeing and their factory in South Carolina is not about beliefs since Boeing is actually being obstructed by the labor relations board. For Boeing the perception is reality.

  • Drew Link

    Let’s go for the daily double: thay are all both crazy AND liars.

    My quips about Grouch are looking better all the time.

  • steve Link

    I suspect their answers for being more pro-growth will be fewer taxes on the wealthy. Bah. I have precious little tolerance for people who just complain.

    Steve

  • MKS Link

    How many, who suspect that Mr. Marcus is crazy, lying or delusional have ever owned or started a business yourself? Are you armchair quarterbacks?

  • sam Link

    “How many, who suspect that Mr. Marcus is crazy, lying or delusional have ever owned or started a business yourself? Are you armchair quarterbacks?”

    You’re begging the question.

  • michael reynolds Link

    In related news: Buggy Whip Inc. CEO blames Obama for downturn in riding crop sales.

  • steve Link

    Ok, let’s put it this way. When I talk with my fellow doctors, the problem with health care is always Obama, or insurance companies, or the drug companies. It is never physicians at fault. This seems no different to me.

    Steve

  • john personna Link

    If he’s a staunch Republican, and he can’t see how Home Depot benefited both from home buying subsidies, and the insanity of home equity withdrawal, how much hope should we have for him.

    Seriously, Home Depot built out into every community as the Mortgage Equity Withdrawal wave crested

    And seriously, what could Obama do for him? Reinflate the housing sector? Would that be good for the rest of us?

  • john personna Link

    Drew: “Let’s go for the daily double: thay are all both crazy AND liars.”

    Don’t forget “unrepentant looters.”

  • john personna Link

    From that article I linked earlier:

    ” Sales of ovens and stoves are on pace to be at their lowest level since 1992.”

    Of course Mr. Home Depot wants action. The question is whether it is the magic Obama fear, or the lowest levels since 1992.

  • michael reynolds Link

    And seriously, what could Obama do for him? Reinflate the housing sector?

    No, no, John, listen to Drew: It can’t be that housing is in a crater. I mean, why would that have an effect on a company that sells lumber, floor tile and lumber?

    Building materials . . . housing. No. No connection there. The culprit must be regulation.

  • “In related news: Buggy Whip Inc. CEO blames Obama for downturn in riding crop sales.”

    Everybody knows it’s because of those damn ATMs.

  • Michael,

    I know you are having fun, but there is one problem with your narrative. It isn’t just the CEO of Home Depot. If it were, okay, yeah crazy and/or liars might be a possible explanation. But we see Intel, Boeing, and 3M.

    And it isn’t what you thinks that matters, but what they think. If their expectations are to take a conservative investment strategy then that is the problem. Whether you think it makes sense or not is irrelevant because to them you are irrelevant. You have no power. You, like me, are a pissant.

    I realize you were joking about the “reinflating the housing bubble” stuff but there have been policies that have gone some way towards that goal. Did you forget Obama’s policy regarding housing subsidies? How about cash for clunkers, his attempt to get the auto industry off life support? And the bailouts for the big banks? To keep them up and running even though they are doing pretty much what they did before the bubble burst…they really are zombies.

    I know, you’ll say, “If he didn’t it would have been much worse!” Yeah maybe so. But maybe that is precisely what we needed to bet out of the mess. Now we are mired down with zombie banks, an auto industry that is being propped up by the government and a housing market that is a mess and will likely take years to unwind. Maybe…maybe we do have anemic growth, like Japan did, because like Japan we followed similar policies.

  • john personna Link

    It isn’t just the CEO of Home Depot.

    But a lot of them can be broken down the same way. For instance, you’ve got another guy there saying that it is regulation, and not wages, that moves jobs to Canada and Mexico. Well, Canada has as much regulation, and Mexico also has the wage advantage.

    The thing is “Obama!” gets you “hallelujahs” in these circles. People know that, so they use it.

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