The Lousy U. S. Labor Market

Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, in an op-ed in the Financial Times, despite all of the happy talk about last week Bureau of Labor Statistics Employment Situation Report, is unhappy with the state of the U. S. labor market as well he should be:

In Friday’s US employment report, the proportion of working-age American adults in a job moved up only 0.1 percentage points, to a miserable 58.6 per cent – numbers not seen since the downturn of the early 1980s. There are still 23m Americans who would like a full-time job but who cannot get one. The jobs deficit, the number of extra jobs that would have been required to keep up with new entrants to the labour market, is 15m. Employment has yet to return to its level of December 2008. Male employment is still below what it was in February 2007 – meanwhile, the working-age population has grown considerably.

Let’s assume that job creation continues at the rate of 225,000 jobs a month. That is only about 100,000 beyond the number required to provide jobs for the average monthly number of new entrants into the labour force. At that pace, it would take 150 months to reach full employment – 13 years, some time around 2025. The independent Congressional Budget Office is more optimistic, forecasting the return of full employment by 2018.

Read the whole thing. He goes on to list three missing elements in demand: the perverse savings situation that prevailed in 2007, the abnormally large proportion of total investment going into housing, and the budget constraints on state and local governments. He follows that with three risks:

  1. A steeper European downturn;
  2. Complacency that the economy will just recover on its own;
  3. That 7% unemployment will come to be seen as acceptable.

to which I might add or a declining labor force participation rate will come to be seen as acceptable.

This is a plea for more fiscal stimulus on Dr. Stiglitz’s part. I’m afraid he would be disappointed at the results.

I did get a good laugh out of his conclusion:

If my Cassandra forecast turns out to be wrong, stimulus can be cut.

Can anyone give an example in which a fiscal stimulus once enacted into law was repealed because it was deemed unnecessary?

I don’t think the prospects are good. Tying this in with some earlier posts of mine employment in the “goods producing” sectors of the economy have been in a long secular decline. Increasing employment in government is unlikely to produce a more-robust self-sustaining recovery unless, of course, we’re prepared to make that employment last forever. Then you’re faced with the cat-and-rat farm perpetual motion problem.

A good deal of the increase in employment in the services sector has been in healthcare which now accounts for more than 10% of total employment. That, too, is largely financed by the government.

Update

Derek Thompson underscores the point at The Atlantic:

The labor market is in full-blown recovery mode right now, with the economy adding more than 200,000 net new workers each month for the past three months. At this rate, we’ll close the jobs gap in roughly … eight years.

Eight years!?

Yep, that is the conclusion from Michael Greenstone and Adam Looney at the Hamilton Project. Today the country faces a 11 million-person jobs gap. This “jobs gap” represents the number of jobs that the U.S. economy needs to return to pre-recession employment rates while also (this part is key!) absorbing everybody joining the labor force.

He has a nifty graph illustrating employment growth under three different scenarios: with the rate of new job creation equal to the average rate during the 2000s, equal to the average rate during the 1990s, and equal to the maximum rate during the 00s.

I would add that in the post-war period the average duration of an expansion has been 59 months. We’re 33 months into the present expansion.

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  • Icepick Link

    to which I might add or a declining labor force participation rate will come to be seen as acceptable.

    MIGHT come to be seen as acceptable? This Administration celebrates that fact, as does the Democratic Party as a whole and its apparatchiks in the media. If it wasn’t acceptable they wouldn’t be bragging about how much the unemployment rate has come down. If the Republicans get in office they will do the same damned thing.

    That horse done left the barn ages ago.

  • Icepick Link

    From FY 2007 to FY 2012 (est.), Federal government outlays have increased by almost one TRILLION dollars. Federal revenue has remained essentially the same. Take out that extra federal government spend and we’re back in a recessionary economic environment. I mean so that even the asshats in DC would notice.

    Don’t just take my word for it, look it up:

    here and

    here.

    That’s a 36.6% increase in spending with no increase in revenue. And this is before the government really ramps up spending for ObamaCare. Do you really feel like we’re getting 36.6% more federal government in just five years?

    So how much more “stimulus” does Stiglitz really think we need?!

  • A good deal of the increase in employment in the services sector has been in healthcare which now accounts for more than 10% of total employment. That, too, is largely financed by the government.

    Not only that but health care is seen as being on an unsustainable trend. If that trend is not sustained then we could see even fewer jobs from health care.

    Will more fiscal stimulus solve this problem? No. That too is unsustainable.

  • Icepick Link

    A great many of the new jobs have been of poorer quality than the jobs they’re replacing. I wouldn’t be shocked if the median wage is still falling. But this is what counts for ‘recovery’ these days.

  • Drew Link

    I have even worse news on the labor market front. I just went out to grab something to eat and, as I’m oft want to do, turned on 820, liberal talk radio. Ed Schultz.

    Oh, my. I was informed that Rush Limbaugh was out of business. His advertisers had all but abandoned him, and he would soon be forced to flee to satellite radio. The hinterlands. He even had an ” expert” on to validate the assertion. Pity poor Rush, and his staff, as they scramble for jobs. What followed were a series of callers variously saying ” damned straight, about time and may he roast in hell.”.

    After that erudite analysis they went to commercial where I was informed that if not but for the good union labor used to build Millenium Park in Chicago, the structures would be unsafe, no doubt killing women, children and orphans.

    Coming back from the break I was, uh, enlightened, yeah, ” enlightened” to learn that Republicans were the cause of bottled water. Yep. If not for Republicans we could drink tap water. It’s all the Republicans fault. ( interesting, coming out of a commercial break specifically targeted at Chicagoans, where the only Republicans are in wax museums or the Natural History Museum).

    I was wondering where this idiocy was going and then….aha! Next came the diatribe against fracking. You just knew the libs had to tie energy policy to poisoning the masses. It’s like the sun rising in the east.

    I used to get upset at this crap. Now I laugh, but lament the affect on the little guy. But I’ve read enough liberal tripe, including Reynolds screed here, to know that the intersection of liberal thought and rationality is the null set.

    But at least they ” care,” oh they ” care,” as long as they can live in their mansions, fly their private jets, tell the common joe what to do………

  • Drew Link

    Hears a way to improve the labor market………and your pocketbook if you are connected……http ://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=50163

  • Limbaugh has a problem with women. Best evidence is that he’s on his fourth wife.

  • Drew Link

    On the other hand, women might have a problem with Limbaugh.

    I’m not sayin, I’m just sayin.

  • Or let’s say Limbaugh has a problem.

  • We ain’t going away.

  • Drew Link

    Neither is he, no matter how much Ed Schultz might pine for it.

  • I don’t care, and I’m certainly not going to boycott Sleep Number beacuse they advertise with him. I sleep on Sleep Comfort.

  • steve Link

    “But at least they ” care,” oh they ” care,” as long as they can live in their mansions, fly their private jets”

    When do I get my jet?

    “Will more fiscal stimulus solve this problem? No. That too is unsustainable.”

    I think the stimulus did all it could in helping to stop the abrupt drop in GDP. At this point, we need better balance sheets and some innovation. On the policy front I think we also need to find a way to make more people involved in our economic decision making. Our wealth has become too concentrated. Markets dont work so well with just a few people setting prices or a few people investing.

    Steve

  • Drew Link

    Markets dont work so well with just a few people setting prices or a few people investing.

    Given the vast number of transactions posted on the various exchanges each day……I find this an odd response.

  • Drew Link

    Have all you patriots bought your $50 light bulbs yet?

  • Yenchh. I pay $7 for 25-watt halogens over the kitchen counter.

  • Icepick Link

    A couple of months ago I paid $13 for a dimmable CFL. It lasted all of 16 days. What a rip-off. Naturally, the receipt had gone out in the trash the day before the bulb burnt out. I guess now I’m going to have to file all receipts of light bulbs and start marking them all.

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