The Bigger Bang Theory

An important finding from Credit Suisse:

One way to look at the US job market is to break it up into two components: jobs generated by structurally “impaired” and “non-impaired” sectors. Credit Suisse defines structurally impaired sectors to “include real estate related industries, finance, manufacturing, and the state and local government sector.” These are the sectors that at least in part rode the “bubble” economy wave. Many of these jobs were credit dependent, with growth beyond what the economy could sustain naturally.

Hat tip: Tyler Cowen

As the chart illustrates job creation in “non-impaired” sectors has nearly returned to pre-recession levels while job creation in “impaired” sectors continues to lag. Additional federal fiscal stimulus, defined as something resembling the ARRA, the last large stimulus package, is only likely to address the problems in the “impaired” sectors marginally. I don’t recall who said it but it’s apt: fiscal stimulus is the “trickle down” of the left.

Another implication of the finding is that states most dependent on “impaired” sectors, particularly real estate and home construction, are the last to recover which to my eye is what is, indeed, happening.

What options are there for addressing this problem more directly? I think they’re few and politically difficult (read: ain’t gonna happen, particularly given the present Congress, flatteringly described in comments recently as “cretins and poltroons” which I think is an injustice to cretins and poltroons). We could subsidize housing construction directly. Presumably, that would lower the value of the “overhang” of unsold properties and put additional strain on the banks, still reeling from the financial crisis and another of the “impaired” sectors.

We could subsidize credit directly in any number of ways but I can already hear the howls of anguish. Welfare for the 1%!

Additionally, if there is such a thing as a credit load-bearing limit, such subsidies would provide no permanent solution but only set the stage for an even bigger financial crisis down the road.

The federal government could subsidize state and local governments directly. I think it should be noted that the problems of state and local governments are two-fold. Revenues are tapped out and their employee contracts don’t allow them the flexibility in compensation for employees present and past that they need. If they attempt to increase revenues, it will incentivize flight (and rent-seeking as we’ve seen here in Illinois). That’s a spiral to the bottom.

The federal government is the only instrumentality with the tools necessary to address the states’ problems. But imagine the moral hazard!

My opinion is what it has always been: gradually reduce the subsidies granted to the “non-impaired” sectors, do what we can to mitigate the suffering of those most affected by the necessary restructuring of the economy, and allow that restructuring to take place. The malinvestment and distortion of the economy has been going on for a very long time so we should expect a return to economic health to be lengthy as well.

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  • PD Shaw Link

    I think in retrospect the stimulus should have targetted more repair of sewer lines than roads. That would have likely engaged a larger segment of construction employment than road repair and a segment which was hurt by the slump in new subdivision construction. There have been a few articles lately emphasizing that old cities have crumbling sewer systems and problematic combined sewer systems. The biggest muncipal bankruptcy in U.S. history stemmed from EPA enforcement action on sewers. Finally, the pollution from sewers tends to flow away the locality, meaning locals with constrained budgets don’t have incentives to fix problems for downstream communities, even if they had the money.

  • sam Link

    “Credit Suisse defines structurally impaired sectors to “include real estate related industries, finance, manufacturing, and the state and local government sector.”

    Well, it would know about the first in the series.

  • iow ‘The Invisible Hand’ is slowly moving laborers from the ‘impaired’ to the ‘non-impaired’ sectors, despite the operating under the governance the most anti-business administration ever. Remove the hostile governance from the equation for the ‘non-impaired’ sectors, and the difference will be made up in a veritable flash.

    d(^_^)b
    http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
    “Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”

  • sam Link

    “despite the operating under the governance the most anti-business administration ever. ”

    Ever? Ever?? I thought that old debbil FDR had that honor, or maybe his cousin the trust-buster. Obama’s more powerful than I thought…or maybe you’re just full of shit.

  • To be honest I think that enough of the “non-impaired” sectors are so completely dependent on state or federal subsidy that were “hostile governance” withdrawn the results would be chaos or collapse. Healthcare, education, aerospace, professional services (AKA lawyers), and so on.

    I might add that, if the Obama Administration has been hostile to the financial sector, I blanche at the thought of what a friendly administration would have done. Frankly, with respect to business I think the administration has a frustrating combination of hostility, ignorance, and nostalgia for the 1950s.

  • The federal government could subsidize state and local governments directly. I think it should be noted that the problems of state and local governments are two-fold.

    Not to mention an issue with incentives. Realizing that they can draw on Uncle Sugar’s revenues in addition to their own there is even less constraint on spending at the state level…which is exactly the wrong signal.

    Also, you end up with the subsidizing credit problem with regards to the credit load limit argument.

    Frankly, with respect to business I think the administration has a frustrating combination of hostility, ignorance, and nostalgia for the 1950s.

    That and special treatment for certain industries and even certain firms. This isn’t good in that it actually heightens uncertainty rather than lowering. Is your firm going to be one of the designated lucky few or not?

  • Ben Wolf Link

    “I might add that, if the Obama Administration has been hostile to the financial sector, I blanche at the thought of what a friendly administration would have done.”

    The banks are allowed to behave as though they are entirely private entities rather than the state-sponsored enterprises they are. The Obama Administration refuses to withdraw covert and overt subsidies or impose stricter lending standards despite the fact banks leverage government money to make their profits.

  • The Obama Administration refuses to withdraw covert and overt subsidies or impose stricter lending standards despite the fact banks leverage government money to make their profits.

    Isn’t this true of everyone in the economy, even you Ben?

  • What I’m saying is that fiscal and monetary policies are in reality different methods intended to reach identical ends.

    So are driving east to reach Cleveland and driving west to reach Cleveland. They have very different costs and implications.

  • steve Link

    “iow ‘The Invisible Hand’ is slowly moving laborers from the ‘impaired’ to the ‘non-impaired’ sectors”

    Not quite. This is not a buggy whip problem. Real estate is not replaced by something else. Real estate as part of our GDP has just disappeared. Put real estate back at historical norms, and we have decent economic growth for now. For the longer run, we should still address health care in particular. Since the growth in government jobs over the last 50 years has occurred at the state and local level, I am not sure what “we” will do about it. That will be a state by state and city by city problem.

    Steve

  • Put real estate back at historical norms, and we have decent economic growth for now.

    I don’t think that real estate will return to “historic norms” for a considerable period of time if ever. There are quite a number of reasons for this including real estate has lost its cachet as a risk-free investment. We now know that real estate can, in fact, decrease in price as well as increase and decrease for a period of five, six or more years, losing half or more of its value. The demand for houses has multiple components including people who want to buy houses to live in, people who want to buy houses to rent, and people who want to buy houses to re-sell. I don’t see that last component coming back into the market at “historic norms” for the foreseeable future. More stringent requirements for credit will also reduce the demand for owner-occupied single family residences.

  • steve Link

    Steve Keen has a very good piece about why it will take a long time to recover.

    http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2012/01/03/the-debtwatch-manifesto/comment-page-4/#comments

    Steve

  • His prescriptions will never be followed for any number of reasons not the least of which is that most of the debt has been incurred by the top 10% of income earners. The campaign ads practically write themselves.

  • Drew Link

    Dave

    Haven’t seen stats, but isn’t your point true by definition? Seems to me more important is debt as a fraction of income or wealth.

    Separately, I’ve just returned from vacation in both Naples, FL and Scottsdale, AZ. RE has not even remotely recovered in AZ. It’s better in Naples. I attribute it to the double cold weather draw from NY and the Midwest, and to taxes.

    Dave

    I have a j maudlin piece on RE I can forward if you are interested.

  • Ben Wolf Link

    @Steve Verdon

    I support withdrawal of subsidies and always have. Perhaps I’m misunderstanding your point.

    @Dave Schuler

    I never suggested fiscal and monetary policies were completely identical. But both are used to regulate aggregate demand by altering the supply of money. They are different weapons from the same arms locker used againat the same “enemy”.

  • Andy Link

    I’m officially moved down to Florida now and after talking to some real estate types, it appears the market may have bottomed out in this area (Brevard County – the area around Cape Canaveral.).

  • Getting statistics on prices and sales from the local real estate board (which may be a tall order) would probably be more reliable than asking realtors. Realtors are in the business of selling real estate and current period sales aren’t helped by suggesting to prospective buyers that prices are likely to be lower next month or next year.

  • PD Shaw Link

    Real estate is also a store of value for desirable schools and retirement. I think its likely we will continue to overinvest in real estate, just not as much as before.

  • I support withdrawal of subsidies and always have. Perhaps I’m misunderstanding your point.

    You argue that the only way for the private sector to save financial wealth, i.e. you and me as well as GE, is for the government to spend money….

  • Icepick Link

    I’m officially moved down to Florida now and after talking to some real estate types, it appears the market may have bottomed out in this area (Brevard County – the area around Cape Canaveral.).

    Well, it’s hard for temps to go below absolute zero….

  • Andy Link

    Dave,

    You’re right, but these weren’t realtors trying to sell me a house since we’re renting and the realtors are friends in the area from when we used to live here.

  • steve Link

    @Dave- Should have been more specific. Dont think solution proposed by Keen is workable, but his analysis re: our debt issues is pretty good.

    Steve

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