Supply More Artillery to Ukraine?

I am seeing a whole raft of calls to supply more artillery to Ukraine, presumably in reaction to Russia’s consolidation of its control over the Luhansk Oblast. Consider Josh Rogin’s observations in the Washington Post:

The Biden administration deserves credit for giving Ukraine massive amounts of help and rallying European allies to the cause. At the same time, concerns are rising that President Biden’s risk-averse strategy amounts to giving Kyiv just enough weapons to maintain a violent stalemate but not to win the war. Winter is coming, and if Russia controls large chunks of Ukrainian territory when the Donbas region freezes over, Putin’s gains will become harder, if not impossible, to roll back in the spring.

According to Mr. Rogin the impediment is primarily political:

Privately, several administration officials told me that the delays are not a result of any problem with the actual delivery of weapons. The core problem is the protracted hand-wringing inside the Biden policy team over each weapons decision. Risch said this is caused by a misguided concern that if Putin starts to lose badly, he might escalate further.

“As a result of that [the White House is] taking the middle path. And the middle path is the wrong path here,” he said. “They can win this, but they can’t do it themselves. They will provide the fight if we provide the weapons.”

concluding:

But at the current pace of support, the stalemate is only likely to persist — a recipe for endless war, destruction and human suffering. Zelensky reportedly told the NATO leaders Ukraine needs to push back Russian forces within months, not years. This week, he unveiled a recovery plan that calls for $750 billion in international investment and support. What will that tab be if the war goes on another year, or another five years?

All wars end with a negotiation, when one or both sides are exhausted enough to seek an end to the fighting. What’s clear is that neither Ukraine nor Russia is at this point of exhaustion yet. But the longer the war goes on, the more pressure mounts on Western economies and the greater the devastation and suffering of Ukrainians.

“Urgency is very important,” Risch said. “This has got to be done before the world looks the other way.”

By dragging its feet on giving Zelensky the weapons he is asking for, the United States risks ensuring that the stalemate persists, which ultimately redounds to Putin’s benefit. The Biden administration underestimated Ukrainian forces in the first stage of the war. It must not repeat the same mistake now.

Another in the genre is William A. Galston’s column in the Wall Street Journal:

A Ukrainian counteroffensive may fail, but if we withhold what the Ukrainians need to have a chance of succeeding, we will ensure that they fail. And if they fail, there is no reason to believe that Vladimir Putin, who sees himself as a 21st-century Peter the Great, will stop in Ukraine. As Mr. Putin once instructed a group of geography students, “The borders of Russia do not end.”

The U.S. owes President Volodymyr Zelensky’s government a chance to win this war, on which Ukraine’s survival and the West’s security depend. We must give the Ukrainians what they need, when they need it.

concluding:

To have the best chance of carrying out a successful counteroffensive, Ukraine will need to neutralize Russia’s advantage in long-range artillery, which it has used to devastating effect in the Donbas region. The Himars multiple-rocket mobile launch system is the best option. The U.S. has already sent Ukraine four of these systems, with another four on the way. Early battlefield reports suggest that Ukrainians have proved to be apt students and are using Himars to great effect. We should send Ukraine another 50 systems as soon as possible, while expanding and accelerating the training needed to operate this sophisticated equipment. (Some experts argue that a shortage of appropriate rockets would limit the utility of the additional Himars, at least in the short term.)

In addition, we should send the Ukrainian army advanced drones to bolster its intelligence gathering and its ability to attack Russian command centers. America should intensify its efforts to refill Ukraine’s stocks of ammunition and artillery shells that have been depleted by months of intense fighting. Working with our allies, the U.S. should give Mr. Zelensky’s government the estimated $5 billion a month that his government will need to maintain basic services during the economic collapse the invasion has created.

I see several defects in both columns. The first is that neither makes any mention of any of our NATO allies. Does Germany have no role in supplying the Ukrainians? On Sunday the German chancellor’s reaction to a question along those lines was instructive. It amounted to “we haven’t spent as much as the United States (even relative to our economy) and we don’t intend to”. That’s a pretty phlegmatic response.

The second is logistics which both columns ignores. 50 HIMARs amounts to our entire inventory. It should be obvious we aren’t going to deliver our entire inventory to the Ukrainians. Even should we intend to do that accomplishing it could be difficult. I think that this is a case in which a difference in scale is surely a difference in kind. Producing that quantity of new HIMARs on short order may well be beyond our capability. That’s the cost of offshoring the production of so many strategic materials.

I won’t even touch on the political gamesmanship aspect of the Ukrainians’ ask.

14 comments… add one
  • Jan Link

    First we send more monies and armaments to Ukraine than all of NATO countries combined, encouraging the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine. And, now there are talks about involving ourselves with giving enormous amounts of money to Ukraine in order to rebuild it. In the meantime, here in the states we are abused by high inflation, gas and food prices, while Biden is tapping into our strategic oil reserves ….sending it overseas to places like China! How does any of this make sense? Are we being strangled by cognitive dissonance policy decisions brought to you by the Biden Administration?

    https://redstate.com/andrewmalcolm/2022/07/06/those-us-oil-reserves-joe-bidens-tapping-to-lower-our-gas-prices-are-going-overseas-n589473

  • Grey Shambler Link

    If the Germans are cool with Russia using violence to expand their borders I can’t see why it should be a top priority for the US.
    At some point Europeans will be concerned.

  • bob sykes Link

    My God, these people are delusional. There is no stalemate. Russia is winning, and the Ukrainian army has been seriously diminished, both in personnel and weaponry. They cannot mount a counter offensive. Ukraine is reduced to drafting teenage boys, middle aged men, and women. Half it population has left for the EU and Russia.

    The amount of aid given Ukraine by the US/NATO is actually quite minimal, and it has not affected the outcomes on the battlefields. Much of the artillery sent to Ukraine, including the HIMARS, already has been destroyed. American arms manufacturers have reaped nearly all the monies “given to Ukraine.”

    The Lithuanian blockade of Kaliningrad continues. Norway is preventing the shipment of food and supplies to Russian miners working on Spitsbergen. A large increase in military aid to Ukraine would almost certainly lead to expanded war. At the very least a complete and immediate cutoff of Russian gas, oil, coal, and grains to Europe would crash the European economy, shutting down most of its manufacturing and putting millions out of work.

    The situation is getting quite ominous. Russia has passed legislation to move to a full war-time economy, including large increases in weapons and munitions manufacture and additional conscription. They are preparing for a major escalation of the war.

    No one in a leadership position in the US or Europe seems to take the possibility (probability now?) of a major war seriously. We are stumbling blind-folded into WW III.

  • At some point Europeans will be concerned.

    Don’t count on it. As Jay Leno quipped during WWII the French wouldn’t even help us liberate France.

  • Half it population has left for the EU and Russia.

    The most I have been able to document is 20%.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    A shorter version of a comment I made a while back. Be skeptical that fighting a war on Russian terms (their style of war; their type of weapons) is a recipe for success.

    As for the Europeans; first we have to ask whether any of our allies have arms to spare given their long-standing disinvestment in their militaries. There were news stories as far back as late March that Germany, Canada had run out of weapons to donate. Second, the political reluctance could also reflect public reluctance. There was the post on European public opinion a couple of weeks ago. I have also seen on Twitter the non-English media coverage of Ukraine is quite different from US/UK media. For example; stories that have different takes on the military situation but even ambiguous stories on the relationship of people of the Donbas vis a vis Ukraine and Russia. I am not saying that non-English media is the truth — but the French / German / Italian publics may have a different perception of the war.

  • IMO the solution to disinvestment is reinvestment. How likely is it that they will do that if the U. S. is willing to pick up all of the slack?

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    “The solution to disinvestment is reinvestment”.

    Agreed. Unfortunately for Ukraine; reinvestment that takes 2 to 4 years can only help in future wars….

  • Andy Link

    The blob has the same dance to a different tune…

    They are right about the importance of artillery though. Neither side has been able to establish any kind of air dominance and drones, despite 20 years of hyping, are not a replacement or panacea. Russia has already successfully shifted tactics to prevent the kinds of successes the Ukrainians had early in the war with Turkish drones.

    So this war has very much become “old school” in the sense that air power is not the decisive element. Artillery is, therefore, the key fire-support element, necessary for both offense and defense, but especially offense. Absent air power, it is essential.

    Here in the US airpower has mostly replaced artillery due to its inherent advantages, but neither side in this conflict has been able to control the skies.

    Contra Bob Sykes, it is the Russians that have been continuously short of manpower, particularly infantry. The main reason their armored columns got slaughtered early in the war is that their units and military were all short of infantry, which are essential for protecting armor. And they still are. The reason the Russians are inching towards mobilization is because they are running out of manpower and other resources.

    But few understand what a big deal that would be. Putin has sought to avoid mobilization, considering it the last resort for many reasons which I won’t belabor here. But assuming that Russia does mobilize, that doesn’t happen instantly – it will be months.

    As for Russia “winning” they are making incremental tactical and operational successes, but that is not winning at the political and strategic level.

    This brings me back to the topic of Russian war goals. The political goals Russia had at the beginning of this war may still be operative, but it’s very questionable whether Russia has the ability to achieve those through military means and at a cost Russian society and, particularly, the Russian elites are willing to bear.

    On the other side, Ukraine doesn’t have the ability to reconquer all its lost territory, even if one excludes Crimea. Is it possible in the future? Maybe.

    Of course, war is inherently uncertain, which is why it’s best avoided. And one must always remember that war is a political activity for political ends, even though it often resembles a self-licking ice cream cone. The moral and human dimensions, expressed in terms of military, social and moral cohesion, are difficult to judge but are perhaps the most important factors.

    Arming the Ukrainians certainly helps their side in a material sense, but also in terms of morale and cohesion. It’s not clear, however, if this can ensure that Ukraine can “win.”

    But of course, there are significant risks to this. The blob ignores these, but they cannot be ignored. The Biden administration, for its faults, seems to be taking this seriously, which pisses off the “do anything for Ukraine” crowd. As much as I would love to see an end to this war, and for Russia to pay a high price for its aggression, there are limits to what risks I will accept, including the risk of my family and country dying by nuclear annihilation.

  • Andy Link

    I would just add that Michael Kofman has been, by far, the best analyst on this war in terms of assessing capabilities, and here he gives a good 5-minute summary of the current state of play that I would recommend:

    https://youtu.be/ZtPvJLiJrBk?t=218

  • Andy Link

    And another useful thread I found. I’ve been traveling for most of the last month and am trying to catch up on things:

    https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1541806128874803200

  • I haven’t listened to the entire video (more than an hour) but they do touch on a very important point: military doctrine. Russian military doctrine is completely different from ours (practically everybody’s is). Most analysts including professionals here in the U. S. are viewing the conflict through the prism of U. S. military doctrine which they simply assume is universal truth. Doing that leads them to misunderstand what is happening.

  • Andy Link

    Dave,

    No need to listen to the entire hour (though for people like me, it’s an interesting listen), just the 5 minutes or so of Michael Kofman that I queued up is the main thing.

  • steve Link

    Nice links. Thought it was well done. I dont think most people understand US doctrine. There are parts I certainly dont anymore.

    Steve

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