Personal Safety and Slippery Slopes

At Outside the Beltway James Joyner reflects on the events of January 6, ultimately arriving at this conclusion:

I share Greenwald’s fear of overreaction and the threats to our civil liberties that comes with it. For selfish and ideological reasons, I would like the fences around public spaces in our nation’s capital to come down and the National Guard troops stationed there to go back to their day jobs. They can’t become permanent fixtures “just in case.”

But let’s also not pretend that the greatest danger to our Republic at the moment is coming from Democrats. It would be a lot harder to demonize Republicans if 74 million of them hadn’t voted to re-elect a would-be autocrat and if their elected officials didn’t overwhelmingly go along with his attempt to steal the election and then exonerate his incitement of a physical attack on the seat of government.

Neither James’s piece nor Glenn Greenwald’s, which serves as the point of departure for James’s post, uses the words “slippery slope” but as I see it there are actually four different things going on in the national debate about the events of January 6 and two of them are “slippery slope” arguments.

A “slippery slope” argument in reasoning, rhetoric, or case law is an argument that one step will inevitably be followed by a chain of other steps leading to a significantly negative outcome. For example, it can be argued that the attacks on September 11, 2001 were the culmination of a several different such chains of steps (inadequate airline security, failure to respond to terrorist attacks, etc.). Probably the most famous slippery slope argument in history is the “domino theory”, an argument for the Viet Nam War. Was the domino theory right or wrong? It’s still being debated.

A slippery slope argument may be refuted if the chain of steps can be demonstrated not to occur, if there is no slippery slope.

As I noted above I think there are actually four things going on:

  • Extreme right-wing groups are angry and dangerous
  • Congressional leaders are pursuing the will o’ the wisp of perfect safety
  • It is being argued that we are on a slippery slope to a coup of right-wing extremists
  • It is being argued that we are on a slippery slope to becoming a military dictatorship

I agree that extreme right-wing groups are angry and and dangerous. They may or may not be on the rise. I think that extremist groups of all kinds and persuasions are on the rise, facilitated by social media, which makes it easier for like-minded people to find each other. In a country as large as ours there are bound to be a certain number of dangerous extremists, from actual Sig Heil-ing Nazis to anarchists to Marxist revolutionaries to violent radical Islamists to others I probably can’t even imagine. The position presently being argued by the Democratic leadership in particular is that groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are uniquely dangerous. I’m skeptical. I think they’re all dangerous but in terms of ongoing civil disorder it’s hard to match the record of the anarchists in the Pacific Northwest.

Presently our political leadership is very old—most were born before 1946. In the past I’ve observed that members of the Silent Generation tend to be very insecure, understandable under the circumstances of their early lives. When you combine that insecurity with the precautionary principle and an actual threat, it may provoke an excessive response and IMO that’s what we’ve seen.

I think the notion that we are on a slippery slope to a coupe of right-wing extremists has been refuted by events. Has it been categorically disproven? No. But events subsequent to January 6 have not seen an escalation of the threat. Those predictions have all been wrong. While a vestigial threat may remain there doesn’t appear to be a slippery slope.

I don’t think the same argument can be made about the “security state”. The best way to refute the argument that we’re on a slippery slope in that direction would be to remove the National Guard and the barbed wire from Washington, DC and stop talking about increasing domestic surveillance efforts.

5 comments… add one
  • steve Link

    As I have said before I dont think people are good with numbers and assessing risk. In general right wing groups kill more people than the left, but the absolute number is small. I dont really see a need for major changes because we are worried about killings. We should be worried about the attempt to stop the peaceful changing of our government which we saw but more National Guard wont change that.

    Stopping the disinformation and conspiracy theories being spread would help a lot but I have no idea how to do that. Those who believe in the conspiracies feel no need to offer evidence and are immune to evidence showing they are wrong.

    Steve

  • In general right wing groups kill more people than the left, but the absolute number is small.

    Yes, a 1 in 100 million chance is one tenth as dangerous as a 1 in a 10 million chance. In practice they’re both zero.

    According to the ADL the number of people killed annually by right-wing extremists has held pretty steadily at around 40. That’s just a little more than 1 in 10 million.

  • Grey Shambler Link

    For some reason the topic makes me recall Stephan Paddock, accountant.
    Dangerous as hell.
    Not Left wing, not Right.
    No visible slippery slope.
    Perfect safety you may not be allowed, only the illusion.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    RE: “the security state”.

    Lets guess which one will occur last.

    1. Troops are withdrawn and fencing taken around Congress.
    2. They do the equivalent around Baghdad.
    3. They do the equivalent around Kabel.
    4. 20 years.

    As a reminder — this is a country that has troops stationed in Germany 75 years after WWII and 30 years after the reason they stayed (Soviet Union) was broken up. Or launching bombing runs in the Middle East based on the AUMF from Sept 11 and 10 years after Bin Laden was killed.

  • Drew Link

    “In general right wing groups kill more people than the left, but the absolute number is small.”

    A sensible purpose would understand that making such an assertion is an absurdity. The very rarity of the issue makes any attempt to estimate the number with anything close to precision a foolish exercise. Mr. I-Read-Research-Papers-More-Critically should know that.

    “I think the notion that we are on a slippery slope to a coupe of right-wing extremists has been refuted by events.”

    It was always a politically convenient fiction, repeated by a slack-jawed media………….for political purposes.

    “Congressional leaders are pursuing the will o’ the wisp of perfect safety.”

    Insecurity? Perhaps, but I think far more likely was political utility. We see no such insecurity with regard to myriad other risks we face every day. And some are truly immoral responses to real problems, for example, repeat drunk drivers and their proclivity for killing. Heh. Even more than 40 a year.

    “It is being argued that we are on a slippery slope to becoming a military dictatorship.”

    At this juncture I find that a bit overwrought. But civil liberties are clearly under full frontal assault. Thank god we have large corporations, civil servants and social media to git us thinkin’ raght……..

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