More On Corn Prices (Updated)

There’s a forum on global food prices going on over at the New York Times that’s helped to expand my understanding of the relationships among ethanol production in the U. S., corn prices, and other food prices I discussed last week. For example, this makes sense to me:

The U.S. is the largest exporter of corn, but we use twice as much corn to produce ethanol as we use it for food export.

Wheat and soy prices increase when corn prices are high, since their acreage allotment is replaced by corn. In addition, wheat and soy get substituted for corn as animal feed.

High corn prices cause higher meat, dairy, wheat and soy prices for consumers. Since last June, the corn price has doubled. Soy and wheat prices are each up 60 percent. Cattle and hog prices have risen 25 percent.

and this makes sense to me, too:

Trade restrictions remain pervasive and help to keep commodity prices high. Recent research by Jeffrey Reimer and Man Li indicates prices could fall by 57 percent if all countries were as open to trade as the United States. Particularly acute examples, like the recent ban of wheat exports by Russia, India’s rice export ban in 2008 and subsequent Philippine hoarding, can greatly exaggerate the effects of weather shocks on world prices. Such policies likely come about from efforts to keep food affordable for a country’s most disadvantaged. Their ultimate effect, however, is to keep food prices higher worldwide, and make more people hungry. To make matters worse, market speculators likely hold greater inventories in anticipation of possible future export bans or hoarding.

As I said last week I’ve opposed agricultural subsidies for nearly 50 years and have opposed ethanol subsidies for corn in particular for as long as we’ve had them. But I also favor aggressive policies to open up world agricultural trade, generally. It’s not entirely clear to me how you disentangle rising prices caused by lousy U. S. energy self-sufficiency policies from rising prices caused by lousy Chinese food self-sufficiency policies.

Let’s consider an example. Unlike beef U. S. pork is, essentially, sold at global commodity prices. Said another way, absent tariff and non-tariff subsidies U. S. pork is competitive with Chineses pork. For much of 2009 and 2010 China had an outright ban on imports of pork from the United States, Mexico, and Canada. There was no ban on imports of grain. Meanwhile, Chinese grain production declined, due to a combination of bad weather and terrible agricultural policy and practices. It may be counter-intuitive but until recently China had been a major exporter of grain, particularly wheat. It is now a net importer.

When corn prices rise high enough rather than feeding their pigs corn, Chinese farmers will feed their pigs wheat and the global price of wheat rises. Bottom line: greater wealth in China, increased meat consumption in China, Chinese agricultural policies, predatory Chinese trade policies, and ill-conceived U. S. ethanol subsidies combine synergistically to raise the cost of food everywhere.

I think there’s an additional message here: when China is the low cost producer of all sorts of agricultural products, industrial materials, and manufactured goods, changes in Chinese policy have a disproportionate effect on world markets and as a consequence of China’s political system such changes can come with alarming rapidity. Fasten your seatbelts, we’re in for a bumpy ride.

See also here.

Update

Moved to action by the absence of actual relevant authorities in the forum I cited above, I went looking for a corn economist and whadday know? I found one and he seems to have direct, relevant expertise. See especially this extremely interesting presentation.

21 comments… add one
  • steve Link

    Take that first primary vote out of Iowa. That would go a long way towards removing ethanol subsidies. I think the GOP budget proposal will tell us a lot about the possibility of cutting ag subsidies.

    Steve

  • Frankly, I doubt it. I note that the cotton subsidies remain in President Obama’s budget even though there are no early primary states affected by them.

    I think the reality is that once a subsidy of this sort has been granted it’s very hard to remove it. The mohair subsidies put in place during WWII are still effective, for goodness sake, even though something like 90% of our mohair is exported to France for processing.

    The key problem is that support for the subsidies is highly concentrated and motivated and opposition to the subsidies is diffuse and less motivated.

  • Drew Link

    “When corn prices rise high enough rather than feeding their pigs corn, Chinese farmers will feed their pigs wheat and the global price of wheat rises. Bottom line: greater wealth in China, increased meat consumption in China, Chinese agricultural policies, predatory Chinese trade policies, and ill-conceived U. S. ethanol subsidies combine synergistically to raise the cost of food everywhere.”

    Now THAT makes sense.

    “I think there’s an additional message here…………….we’re in for a bumpy ride.”

    Call me crazy, but given this reality a nation shouldn’t pursue spending policies that make it beholden to China for financing, continue to transfer resources from the more efficient and competitive private sector to the public sector (especially when its dominated by income transfer), pursue national policies that make a vital “raw material” – energy – needlessly more expensive and detrimental to your competitiveness, waste valuable resources on feel good projects such as high speed rail lines that will run 2/3ds empty, run a miserable public education system and on and on.

    We got away with all this nonsense for years – decades really – because we were so far ahead of developing nations, and it takes a long time for competitive balances to shift. But the BRIC’s are now here, their development is moving rapidly and we need to get sobered up and deal with it.

  • PD Shaw Link

    I believe the last significant trade round on this issue, essentially reached an agreement to freeze ag. subsidies at existing levels with some sort of moral commitment on each member to make further reductions. I think that’s why the form and coverage is sticky.

    And if anything, the ethanol regulations do act generally to reduce _budgetary_ subsidies since they reduce the need for price-floor subsidies.

  • Drew Link

    More variables:

    http://southeastfarmpress.com/grains/corn-prices-good-input-costs-concern

    Prices: Click on the 25 yr option. Something obviously was going on in about 2005 (the ethanol hypothesis) but clearly their was a significant fallback and then, recently, a dramatic rise.

    http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=corn&months=300

  • steve Link

    Little OT (sorry), but one for Drew. Dave might like also.

    http://www.urgentspeed.com/applied_disruption/2010/04/why-ten-million-dollar-ipos-matter.html

    Steve

  • sam Link

    “I think the GOP budget proposal will tell us a lot about the possibility of cutting ag subsidies.”

    According to Roy Blount, the subsidies are necessary because without them, a lot of jobs would be lost….

  • PD Shaw Link

    I’m disappointed with the NY Times forum; almost none of them actually talk about corn. Dave has highlighted the only one that did; all of them have their own agendas, and none appear to mention the dumping charges being levied against U.S. distilled grains, the food byproduct of ethanol production.

  • PD Shaw Link

    “The U.S. is the largest exporter of corn, but we use twice as much corn to produce ethanol as we use it for food export.”

    I think this sentence is misleading:

    Most countries, including China until recently, limit the import of corn, and China has said it’s going to resume limits. The implication that the U.S. is the primary actor, as usual, is deceptive.

    The U.S. comparative advantgage is in yellow corn, which is not primarily a food stuff, it’s for feed. The comparison of ethanol to food is disingenous. See Dave’s previous chart.

    In any event, the U.S. produces more yellow corn than it did ten years ago, and produces more yellow corn for food than it did ten years ago.

    Ethanol production leaves behind the protein, fat and fiber which are then used to make distillers grains for feed. This is what the U.S. is being accused of dumping on the world market at cheap prices. Ethanol also captures substandard corn that can’t be used for feed or food.

  • I’m disappointed with the NY Times forum; almost none of them actually talk about corn.

    There’s a reason for that. A quick (i.e. half hour) check of their CVs shows that none of them appear to have the requisite knowledge or background. Several are, essentially, professional political activists. Given the character of specialization in academics the academics in the bunch don’t really have any more expertise than I do on this subject, i.e. they took classes as undergraduates. Their actual expertise tends to be Asian grain economics. That’s good for commenting on Asian grain economics but it’s mostly irrelevant to the effect of U. S. policy on world markets.

    The implication that the U.S. is the primary actor, as usual, is deceptive.

    Yes, that’s largely my point. I think the U. S. is an actor but it’s not the only actor.

  • PD Shaw Link

    “Wheat and soy prices increase when corn prices are high, since their acreage allotment is replaced by corn. In addition, wheat and soy get substituted for corn as animal feed.”

    The converse is also true: Corn prices increase when wheat and soy prices are high, since their acreage allotment is replaced by wheat and soy. Farmers obsess on grain futures because they are trying to anticipate next year’s prices; they don’t elect one crop for all time, or don’t forego crop diversification.

    The problem is more subtle, which is whether land more suited to crop A is put into production for crop B. Or whether land more suited to be put out of production for environmental reasons is encouraged into production due to price supports.

  • Drew Link

    steve –

    There’s alot going on in that piece, but I can tell you from first hand experience that SOX and now Dodd-Frank are far more important in people’s thinking, at least the people I know, than some of those trading considerations. Its a shame that at a point in our history when business/job growth is needed more than ever we have pols and regulatory regimes that are counterproductive.

    BTW – for future reference, I, and our firm, are MBO/LBO as opposed to venture/seed guys. Its a totally different world.

    A point made in the article about capital abundance vs entrepreneurial deficit may be true for venture and the next Google or Facebook, I don’t know. But for what we do, not at all. There are so many companies out there that are solid and more established, but lacking the expertise or risk tolerance to fulfill their potential, it would make your head spin. It really would. (The notion that “US manufacturing is dead” among the chattering class is just so much rubbish). But its becoming harder every day for these $50MM – $200MM revenue companies to find their way through the tax and regulatory mindfields, and for appropriately sized capital providers to survive and to justify investments. Dodd-Frank is just the latest arrow to the back of small, and in favor of big.

  • Drew Link

    “According to Roy Blount, the subsidies are necessary because without them, a lot of jobs would be lost….”

    EXTRA, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT!! Beneficiary of subsidy invokes job loss if subsidy removed…..

  • PD Shaw Link

    I like the presentation Dave updated the post with. The chart on page 28 illustrates one of my points. Corn production is increasing, but not necessarily at the cost of food and there are gains from distilled grains (DGS) as well that need to be counted.

    Wheat replacement may be an issue, but I believe U.S. wheat has independent issues with greater global competition and changing American diet.

  • I like the presentation Dave updated the post with.

    Yeah, I thought it was right on point.

    However, it does bring to mind a question. Why did the NYT pick the people it did for its forum rather than somebody like Wisner?

  • Drew Link

    “See especially this extremely interesting presentation.”

    Perfect. Now we’re smokin’.

  • Drew Link

    I’ve reviewed this Wisner doc now three times. In point of fact, it appears that those citing ethanol mandates and the effect on corn prices are absolutely correct.

    Given the knock on effects on food cost, its shameful, just shameful. How many times have I said it? You get the government involved and invariably its the “little guy” who eventually gets hosed.

  • PD Shaw Link

    Drew, I think you and I are asking different questions. In my view, ethanol regulation probably increases the price of corn, but that in turn increases the production of corn. The farmer is more likely to plant corn (since it’s more expensive to produce), more likely to fertilize the corn (and irrigate and spray pesticides), and more likely to invest in drying and storage facilities to maximize his return. (some of these considerations are on page 11)

    Here’s a p&l analysis of corn production from 2008-2009. Look at the line for fertilizer costs and see how it is steadily eating up the revenues, posing the risk of losses if prices maintained at the 2003-2007 averages.

    http://www.farmdoc.illinois.edu/manage/newsletters/fefo08_13/fefo08_13.html

  • john personna Link

    The ethanol boys got enough of a windfall when MTBE went away. That alone is enough for a small ethanol industry, as a technology incubator.

  • Brett Link

    Thanks for the Corn Presentation you found. I had no idea that the percentage of corn produced that’s fed to livestock was that high.

  • Drew Link

    PD –

    For me, the smoking guns were:

    1. Demand elasticity was zero. To be expected with a govt mandated issue.

    2. Price movement was HUGE with small changes in ethanol production.

    3. Ethanol consumption is the balooning use since the mid-2000’s.

    The real question, it seems to me, is why elasticity pertains to other useages of corn (vis-avis wheat, sorghum etc) but not ethanol???? Whatup with that?? I can only think of two reasons:

    1. Ethanol from corn is so much cheaper than from other sources.

    2. The regs were written such that the ethanol had to come from corn.

    I don’t know, but my suspicious mind says #2. After all, the whole thing is a classic political gift.

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