Facts, Myths, and Disinformation

This looks like a good place to begin a little inquiry. The editors of the Washington Post are alarmed at the disinformation and distortions being promulgated:

“WHERE ARE the protesters?” asked several accounts on Twitter early Monday morning, after most Washingtonians had gone to bed and the Web-waves had quieted. Using the hashtag #DCblackout, they claimed that communications downtown had been blocked to cover up police violence. Then came a series of suspicious missives in identical language declaring that all was well — spurring more concern among observers that something fishy really was afoot.

The entire thing was a ploy, carried out through fraudulent accounts and designed, it appears, to instill panic.

The #DCblackout scare is only one example of the disinformation flourishing amid the week’s anguish and unrest. The favorite tactic of Internet meddlers has been to exploit existing rifts in our society rather than to break open new ones on their own, and this crisis in particular may be ripe for infiltration. The largest Russian troll farm on Facebook leading up to the 2016 election had a go-to topic for sowing discord and division: Black Lives Matter. The Internet Research Agency even attempted to recruit the family members of African Americans killed by the police. America’s endemic racism is an Achilles’ heel.

Let’s start compiling a little list of the disinformation and distortions presently being promulgated. This is just a first approximation. Feel free to contribute your own candidates for the list. If you disagree that something on the list is either disinformation or a distortion, please provide evidence. The best sort of evidence would be multiple independent corroborations, especially from disinterested sources or sources on differing parts of the political spectrum. For example, a news report from the Washington Post and another distinct news report from the Wall Street Journal would be convincing evidence.

A few cautions. Extrapolation from what we believe to be true is not evidence. It’s an unproven hypothesis. Absence of an alternative explanation isn’t evidence, either.

Here we go:

  • Communications blackout in Washington, DC to cover up police violence (see above)
  • The rioting and violence in many American cities is being coordinated by Antifa or some left wing or anarchist groups.

    I have been unable to find a corroboration from a reliable source of the reports that loads of bricks have been pre-positioned in some of the riot areas or any other evidence of coordinated activity by left wing or anarchist groups. That having been said I would be tremendously surprised if there were no individual or even group left-wing or anarchist participation in the rioting and looting (the distinction between coordination).

  • The rioting and violence in many American cities is being perpetrated and/or aggravated in an organized way by white supremacists.

    Again, no evidence but I’d be tremendously surprised, etc.

  • The rioting and violence in many American cities is the work of organized criminal gangs.

    Despite Mayor Lightfoot having mentioned this multiple times I have found no corroborating evidence of it. Getting a panel van does not require a great deal of organization.

  • There is systemic racism in America’s police forces.

    More on this later.

  • President Trump’s entourage used tear gas on the demonstrators to enable Trump to have a photo op brandishing a Bible.

    Trump denies this adamantly. I suspect it was pepper spray rather than tear gas.

It might be entertaining to come up with a list of the disinformation and distortions associated with COVID-19. There’s certainly a lot of it.

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  • steve Link

    ” I suspect it was pepper spray rather than tear gas.”

    Having tried both I am not sure it matters that much. Do think pepper spray comes in different strengths. Not sure about tear gas. I especially cant figure out why they didnt just ask the ministers at the church to move. What was the point of shooting flash bangs and spraying something, whatever it was.

    Steve

  • I think that Trump’s photo op was dumb but I also think the hysteria over it is dumb.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    For COVID

    – There would 3000/deaths a day by June 1 if the US. started reopening
    – Hydroxycloroquine studies (all of them until the first RCT which was published today)
    – Recovered. patients can get reinfected (later found it was recovered patients shedding live virus)
    – Masks are ineffective / effective (since the official guidance changed on this one, one of the positions was wrong)
    – Ibuprofen. was risk factor for disease severity
    – Georgia was performing human sacrifice by reopening on May 1
    – There was a shortage of ventilators

  • To that list I think i might add

    – contagion is likely out-of-doors
    – mass testing is necessary to prevent a major outbreak
    – locking down early will lower the curve

    That last cannot be true. California locked down before New York but New York seems to be lower the curve while California isn’t.

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    With out-of-doors contagion; there is nuance.

    It is likely to be lower risk then indoors — but not low / zero’ish risk if social distancing / mask wearing is ignored.

    There were believed to be super-spreader events at an Italian soccer match and Mardi Gras. A lot of spread occurred via skiing in March.

  • steve Link

    “I think that Trump’s photo op was dumb but I also think the hysteria over it is dumb.”

    There is no precedent for such usage of police and National Guard. Risking someone getting hurt, even if it was just falling when they were rushed (look at the video) so that Trump could have a photo op? Not something we should expect or allow in a democracy.

    “– There would 3000/deaths a day by June 1 if the US. started reopening”

    Who said that?

    ” Hydroxycloroquine studies (all of them until the first RCT which was published today)”

    Nope, that is how medicine works. Retrospective studies and observational studies are faster and cheaper. We dont usually treat them as definitive. You need to separate the press response and what practitioners do.

    “California locked down before New York”

    If you look at the death curves for New York, UK, Italy, Sweden, Switzerland, France, Germany and the very large majority of places the curve flattens and starts dropping 2-3 weeks after lockdown, even lockdown lite like Sweden. Of course Sweden is dropping off more slowly.

    “Sweden’s top epidemiologist has admitted his strategy to fight Covid-19 resulted in too many deaths, after persuading his country to avoid a strict lockdown. “If we were to encounter the same illness with the same knowledge that we have today, I think our response would land somewhere in between what Sweden did and what the rest of the world has done,” Anders Tegnell said in an interview with Swedish Radio.”

    Being Americans we focus on only the short term. A year from now we will probably know what we should have done.

    Steve

  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    Well, so far none of studies showed what the study today showed. It did bring not increased mortality; but it did not bring statistically significant improvement.

    Almost all studies to date show there was either harm or a benefit — so they were false information either way.

    Amusingly; the Lancet is now expressing concern of the study it published; which should precede its retraction. The WHO is (LOL) resuming its study of HCQ after an internal review found no safety risk so far.

  • steve Link

    If you read more then you would know that while WHO temporarily stopped its study, others were maintained. So if your idea of science is that everything is straight lines and smooth curves, then this doesnt seem like science. (Pretty much how engineers seem to think.) if you think that a lot of science is scattergrams, then this is OK. Papers get published, they get analyzed and torn apart looking for weaknesses. Eventually we figure it out. The value of these fast, retrospective studies is that they keep us, sometimes, from making major errors. The fact that other studies were kept going should tell you that people understood what was published had issues. (I didnt cite that study you will notice, just the cancer one.)

    Steve

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  • CuriousOnlooker Link

    On misinformation; they found more fraudulent papers from Surgisphere.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling

    Surgisphere wrote a paper that ACE inhibitors used for hypertension is safe for COVID; and another one touting anti-parasitic drug ivermectin.

  • GreyShambler Link

    “Not something we should expect or allow in a democracy.”

    The Democrobureau should have absolute authority to ban that.

    Trump looked clumsy and foolish, that’s all the ban we need.

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